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Re: Hello, GitHub

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I wouldn't be worried about Atom; half of Facebook is using it; if anything were to happen, they would fork it.

So MS is just going to pay engineer salaries to maintain a free tool used by FB?

The way I see it, it's not worth the risk of Facebook forking it and essentially getting control of the community of developers who are using Atom. A better way to do it IMHO, as other people in the thread mentioned, is just integrating Microsoft products like Azure to promote their enterprise offerings (where they make their money).

Eventually, though, they might want to allow an easy transition to VS Code in some way to cut redundancies but doing it too soon would anger too many people. Atom seems to be losing market share anyways.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Remember Skype? That wasn’t in 80-90s...

personally, I really like the performance of 'skype for business' but maybe I am in the minority there. all of the tools and integration with outlook is pretty smooth...

but what if we don't use outlook - not everyone does. this is at the fundamental heart of the problem with Microsoft (Apple is just as guilty, btw). It is the "hey, we have a nice ecosystem - everyone should use it" viewpoint. As a developer and consultant - I will decide which tools are appropriate and best for the job at hand, not something dictated by corporate marketing. Skype has gotten much worse since Microsoft acquired them. Every time I start Skype I have to update it and its not as stable as it once was, especially on OSX

Re: Hello, GitHub

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FAANG, I've never seen this before! Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google?

Correct, It's often used in modern context when talking about what stock is powering the market right now. It's a "FAANG" market. EDIT: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/faang-stocks.asp

Oh, it's a stock thing? It makes more sense as Wall Street slang - in terms of the technological landscape, one of those companies is so obviously dissimilar to the others that the phrase makes little sense.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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I’m going to be a bit contrarian to “the sky is falling” posts on HN and say: I think Microsoft is handling this really well. 1) They’ve acknowledged the skepticism around the acquisition. 2) They’ve expressed their commitment to keep GitHub an independent platform (like they did with LinkedIn.) 3) Nat Friedman, although I was not familiar with him prior to this, seems like an ideal candidate to run GitHub. This, ove…

I really can't think of a better large tech company to buy GitHub (Which has been closed sourced since creation and I don't know why people are so scared). Now Oracle would make me put on my tin foil hat on immediately and deleting of my account.

Google or Amazon?

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How so? What was going to be controlled, by whom?

I assumed that Microsoft has security policies to ensure that all confidential information (e.g. non-open-source code and strategic discussions) is stored on infrastructure controlled by Microsoft. The company I work at is very careful about keeping our intellectual property on our infrastructure, and I am surprised that a larger company like Microsoft doesn't have similar policies.

Maybe info sec drove the decision to purchase github because that was the easier way to reign in the data leak. =)

Re: Hello, GitHub

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That's amazing. Contrast that to my friend who works on code at Apple that's so guarded that he can't even access it from Apple HQ. He has to travel to his office in an unmarked Apple bldg several miles from HQ (in an unmarked van) and access the code from inside the bldg. Any attempt to work on his code outside that bldg, on the Apple employee shuttle for example, will result in immediate firing with possible crimin…

> unmarked van You may think it’s unmarked, but if you know how to spot them they’re very easy to pick out.

If I was an intelligence agency, I would do the trivially obvious thing and only use "unmarked cars" when I didn't care about being spotted, and an actual nondescript vehicle the rest of the time.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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How so? What was going to be controlled, by whom?

I assumed that Microsoft has security policies to ensure that all confidential information (e.g. non-open-source code and strategic discussions) is stored on infrastructure controlled by Microsoft. The company I work at is very careful about keeping our intellectual property on our infrastructure, and I am surprised that a larger company like Microsoft doesn't have similar policies.

> I assumed that Microsoft has security policies to ensure that all confidential information (e.g. non-open-source code and strategic discussions) is stored on infrastructure controlled by Microsoft.

It depends on how important the code is.

I don't imagine MS will ever move Office or Windows to external servers, but a lot of other stuff is fair game.

There is always a security/convenience trade off.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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I do hope that this works. One major concern I have is being badly burned by using Xamarin when it was a couple of years (4?) old. I hope they don't do that to github. Xamarin wasn't very elegant back then when those guys started it - it was a horrid hack. That makes me worried.

Re: Hello, GitHub

#430
post #7

I’m going to be a bit contrarian to “the sky is falling” posts on HN and say: I think Microsoft is handling this really well. 1) They’ve acknowledged the skepticism around the acquisition. 2) They’ve expressed their commitment to keep GitHub an independent platform (like they did with LinkedIn.) 3) Nat Friedman, although I was not familiar with him prior to this, seems like an ideal candidate to run GitHub. This, ove…

I agree, my biggest concerns are: 1. What is happening to Atom? I have tried VS code and don't really like it due to the difference in how the 2 systems are designed to work (Atom being more "plugins are king", VSCode being more "kitchen sink included by first-party"). I'd hate to see my favorite editor lose it's major backing. If MS makes a commitment to continue to develop Atom, or they work with someone else to "t…

I had the impression VSCode had the technical superior plugin system and I found it much more performant.

Atom had more plugins for some time, but they had mediocre quality.

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