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Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by sha90 »

irrational wrote: post #68
giancarlostoro wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad they're doing this. If anything the only ones misbehaving are the skeptics making claims they'll likely be disproved over. Also has been noted if they had issues with this happening they should of never used GitHub to begin with. I guess devs are religious about git hosting platforms aside from text editors and programming languages.

This is a serious question. How old are you? I'm wondering if you were a developer during the 1990s when MS was at its worst. I was and I still harbor deep hatred for all things MS. I wonder if the rest of the "skeptics" are coming from the same time period and those of you who are saying our concerns are unfounded are from a younger generation.

Development on the MS side was just fine in the 90s for many people. If you were an open source developer in the 90s, maybe not, but then again, OSS in the 90s was pretty broken for _everyone_.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by acomjean »

hlmencken wrote: post #16

It was a pleasure but gitlab and bitbucket have continued to improve and I've expected some sort of exit for a while. I appreciate everything the Github team has done, but barring some crazy improvements from Microsoft I think my feet are firmly planted on the GitLab train.

We're using gitlab and are quite happy with it. Of course we migrated from an internal git hosted solution, so having a web based anything is novel. We did take the opportunity to re-gigger our code base. Git is great but its not supper at having nested Git repos...

What is surprising is that one of the younger members of our team really equated "Git" with "GitHub". I think the brand is so strong, but now "Github" by microsoft makes clear github is not git..

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by reitanqild »

snowwolf wrote: post #21
ericabiz wrote: post #7

I’m going to be a bit contrarian to “the sky is falling” posts on HN and say: I think Microsoft is handling this really well. 1) They’ve acknowledged the skepticism around the acquisition. 2) They’ve expressed their commitment to keep GitHub an independent platform (like they did with LinkedIn.) 3) Nat Friedman, although I was not familiar with him prior to this, seems like an ideal candidate to run GitHub. This, ove…

I’ve seen many acquisitions commit to 2) only to slowly walk back from that “in the interests of operational efficiencies”. And next thing you know you have to change over to using a Microsoft account to log in...

WhatsApp and a number of Apple and Google aquisitions comes to mind in addition to Microsofts own Skype.

(Although, IIRC except for WhatsApp most of these didn't make many promises.)

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by mitochondrion »

gilrain wrote: post #58
peterwwillis wrote: post #40

What I really love about this is that M$ realize the product's users are tightly wound to the brand's identity, and are hostile to M$'s. They know they're buying a "lifestyle brand" and that they have to keep it hip and unencumbered by a corporate behemoth or it'll become worthless. When the new CEO has to make a public personal appeal to the users to keep them from jumping ship, that says something (though I'm not s…

> M$ Really?

Long live the Gates?

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by justadudeama »

pow_pp_-1_v wrote: post #93

A nice, safe introduction. There's a lot of talk about people leaving github for other platforms. If there are actually doing it, it seems like a short-sighted move. I understand why people who lived through the earlier years of Microsoft are skeptical. Microsoft did a very good job of earning a lot of ill will. But things have changed. Microsoft's primary focus seems to be is Azure and everything they do needs to be…

Because it is the business interest to get people using Azure, how do you think this will effect Github?

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by viseztrance »

dangrossman wrote: post #76
viseztrance wrote: post #61

I'm using another service for my private repos, as github's pricing structure for a single dev is seriously uncompetitive. I wanted to move my public / open source repos for a long time. Now I finally I have the opportunity to do so without getting into discussions at an interview on why am I not using github. For people such as myself, I don't know what Microsoft / Github can do or say to convince otherwise.

> pricing structure for a single dev is seriously uncompetitive $7/month is a burden? What's it competing with except a fancy coffee or two?

Remember, these costs add up quite easy. Why bother if I can get the same features for free?

But it really depends on how you view it. I felt I got better value by supporting an open source project I like on patreon (Godot) than spending my money on this subscription.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by nodesocket »

ericabiz wrote: post #7

I’m going to be a bit contrarian to “the sky is falling” posts on HN and say: I think Microsoft is handling this really well. 1) They’ve acknowledged the skepticism around the acquisition. 2) They’ve expressed their commitment to keep GitHub an independent platform (like they did with LinkedIn.) 3) Nat Friedman, although I was not familiar with him prior to this, seems like an ideal candidate to run GitHub. This, ove…

Agree. I for one am excited about the future of GitHub under Microsoft. Happy for Tom Preston-Werner, Chris Wanstrath, Mark Otto and all the early employees.

It is sad that Hacker News, once a community for hungry entrepreneurs has digressed into a hipster, anti-corporate, anti-capitalism community.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by leg100 »

mitochondrion wrote: post #109
leg100 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How has gitlab "continued to improve"? They are getting worse. Do you have statistics on their uptime or their performance? Because in my own experience, gitlab.com is going from bad to worse. Their API increasingly returns 503s and timeouts. Their UI is increasingly returning a stale state. One pushes a branch and they say it doesn't exist. One does a git pull and it takes so long one is used to going off and puttin…

Do you not self-host?

No sir, I do not. And I'd rather not have to.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by PunchTornado »

e1ven wrote: post #82
PunchTornado wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is that I've been hearing that phrase at every interview from every candidate, on a lot of blogposts and presentations. It's a cheap and uncreative way to get under someone's skin.

I suspect you’ve been hearing it a lot because more and more people are starting code while very young. I’m certainly not the best coder in the world, but I was “coding” in Logo (for example) from a very young age. Lots of kids are interested in computers and the barrier to entry is pretty low.

Yeah, but they are not 40 years old interviewing and writing blogposts now. anyway, it's a lame thing to say, as nobody cares when you started "coding". what do you want to achieve by saying that phrase?
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