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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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This is a wake up call. Too many things are relying on Github right now. Microsoft was part of the PRISM program. If Microsoft shares SSL certs with NSA they could do MITM attacks. What if in some very specific cases you download dependencies from GitHub and they give you a different version with malicious code? It's the NSA. They could be smart enough to only deploy those attacks on production servers were nobody is…

Whenever I read these kinds of posts on this website I think of Sterling Hayden in Dr. Strangelove. (The crazy SAC commander who thinks the Russians are plotting to steal Americans' precious bodily fluids). I understand that people don't trust the NSA/US government. And they shouldn't: the US government will always put its interests above yours and mine, and above those of allied countries. At the same time, this stu…

It also used to be considered paranoia to think that the NSA might do all the things in the Snowden leaks, but here we are.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Why were you not concerned previously about an unprofitable SV startup holding that central position? GitHub wasn’t a non-profit. This was always the endgame for them. They were losing money to acquire a userbase that would be sold when the time is right — just like WhatsApp and numerous other big social SV plays.

What is SV? There are too many definitions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SV

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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Fact is Microsoft is a hostile company and will have access to private repositories.

Fact? How do you define whether Microsoft is hostile? What are your criteria? Look, I hated Microsoft in the '90s and '00s. I was there. I grew up in a world where IBM dominated the market though. They've both changed. The market has changed and both of these companies had to deal with that. The reality is that nowadays people pay with their privacy instead of with currency for a product; they are the product. Does i…

My criteria is based on how they treated me on several occasions.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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post #771

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Fact? How do you define whether Microsoft is hostile? What are your criteria? Look, I hated Microsoft in the '90s and '00s. I was there. I grew up in a world where IBM dominated the market though. They've both changed. The market has changed and both of these companies had to deal with that. The reality is that nowadays people pay with their privacy instead of with currency for a product; they are the product. Does i…

My criteria is based on how they treated me on several occasions.

Very vague description of your anecdotal evidence. I mean, for starters, which time period are you referring to?

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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> If the NSA felt like spying on you, pro tip, they're gonna be able to do it. True, but I suppose it matters how easy/difficult it is for them to do that.

The NSA is not god, they can't break 2048-bit TLS encryption no matter how many computers they have.

There's theory, design and implementation.

Maybe in theory it is safe, but implementations are often not safe.

An oversimplified way to see this is that your software runs on an OS which runs on a processor.

Your processor is backdoored (Intel ME and equivalent), your OS is backdoored, the entropy for your crypto is backdoored (Intel RDRAND instruction), your crypto algorithm implementation is backdoored.

So there are infinite resources for them to hack you at any moment for any reason. You have already gave them the keys to everything.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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> And Microsoft is all-in on open source. We have been on a journey with open source, and today we are active in the open source ecosystem, we contribute to open source projects, and some of our most vibrant developer tools and frameworks are open source. When it comes to our commitment to open source, judge us by the actions we have taken in the recent past, our actions today, and in the future. It’s a fair point bu…

They're all-in open source. They love it. That's why their former CEO said its cancer.

Everything said after that is just some cheap PR trick for chumps.

Quickly after they get back into an advantage position again they will abuse it same as before and you will live in an age of digital slavery.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Why were you not concerned previously about an unprofitable SV startup holding that central position? GitHub wasn’t a non-profit. This was always the endgame for them. They were losing money to acquire a userbase that would be sold when the time is right — just like WhatsApp and numerous other big social SV plays.

What is SV? There are too many definitions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SV

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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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>Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Literally every for-profit desktop OS vendor has "spied on users" by the definition you're trying to use. Including OSX and Ubuntu. >Do they not engage in patents racketeering? So Google boxes Microsoft out of the phone market by refusing to support any of their services on Windows Phone. And Microsoft is the bad guy for leveraging their patents against vendors selling Android…

I didn't know patent racketeering was a fair response to not supporting an OS with a worldwide marketshare of less than 2%.

Not supporting? You mean actively blocking? Google actively blocked windows phones devices from accessing YouTube.

And on what planet do you live that licensing out patents that are legitimate patents, for a fee, is racketeering? Talk about Torchlighting....

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Well hello there, I'd like to share a story with you. I'm the maintainer of butterproject.org and have been maintaining popcorntime.io for a while, we had there 2 issues with GitHub a few years ago, both related to (unfounded) copyright claims on the butter and popcorntime code (we absolutely own the right to every single line there), when we tried to make our case we were ignored once and asked to 'keep things quiet…

popcorntime was strictly confrontational, and was blatantly illegal. "Transforming BitTorrent media streaming" can be a good goal, but doing it illegally will cause you to be shut down. Remember grooveshark? They tried the same thing -- to create a legit service that disrupts and industry. But there's a reason they failed and spotify succeeded, and I think it's because they partnered with existing companies instead o…

But their source code wasn't illegal.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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It's not a misquote and it's not disingenuous. That was their attitude at the time.

It is a misquote. See above. He was talking about Linux not open source, and specifically about the licence that Linux has chosen to use. It would be entirely reasonable to find it an objectionable comment nonetheless, but please find objectionable what he actually said, not some alternative version.

OSS was built on the GPL. Clutching at straws, that is.
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