This all sounds good and nice. The question is how much real power he has in Microsoft hierarchy? I mean, if some Microsoft VP decides to violate any of the promises Nat Friedman makes, what would be his options (besides the obvious one of resigning)? How much power he has if Microsoft decides to change direction and force GitHub to do something they didn't want to do?
Hello, GitHub
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I feel the same way about people who unironically write M$ to be honest. It's a counter-brand they've elected to champion, and more power to them. That said, it feels lazy and deeply mired in a Browser Wars-era IRC discussion about wether Netscape Navigator or Lynx is the way forward. Or any other, equally tedious, period of paeolithic tech history. Microdollaroft have been pretty well behaved recently, especially wi…
Said the kid that doesn't remember the SCO-Linux disputes
Alternatively: So freaking old I can't remember something that was still going on last November!
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/appeals-court-ke...
The good news is it's nearly time for my spongebath here in Longhorn Vista carehome, and my new nurse is a former Microsoft CEO trying to make ends meet. Nobody had the heart to tell him Google weren't destroyed, so he's been unsuccessfully trying to use Bing to find a new job. Good strong hands. Bit excitable. Throws the furniture around more than strictly necessary.
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Answers are here for you - https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2018/06/04/microsoft-github... I'm posting them here for easy ref - 1. "Second, we will accelerate enterprise developers’ use of GitHub, with our direct sales and partner channels and access to Microsoft’s global cloud infrastructure and services. " Above means - More revenue for MS. 2. "Finally, we will bring Microsoft’s developer tools and services to new…
Thank you for information. So integrating tools and services means dependence. Disclaimer: I don't have a strong reaction against this acquisition. I always felt that one day I will migrate somewhere, but I'm not in a hurry.
Integration can refer to better interoperability, not just dependence.
Think of a large, non-tech company (i.e. development is a "resource" and not a first class citizen) that already has an Enterprise license for Office 365, which handles their emails, Office apps, and Active Directory for authentication. Microsoft could sell Github Enterprise as a one-click install that spins it up on Azure and hooks into the existing O365 AD for user management. No long procurement process, vendor has already been vetted (Microsoft), same privacy/compliance validation as your O365-hosted Exchange server, etc. Devs in these environments just went from an uphill battle to get Github approved for hosting repos to Github becoming the preferred solution.
And the inverse is true. Microsoft makes some incredibly good development tools. Traditionally, they've been limited to a Windows only model. But they've been making a lot of strides in making their traditionally Windows-only stuff cross-compatible. And Github is a really good channel/brand to try to get that software in front of users that may not have otherwise ever even looked at that Microsoft tooling.
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I'm curious if Electron will get a boost of some kind now. Considering how famous/notorious it is, MS could get a hell of a lot of goodwill here if they invest in the tech.
Wouldn't that mostly look like an investment in v8?
Or a common API where it uses Chakra on Windows and V8 everywhere else, until someone plugs in Webkit or some other engine for other OS'. Wishful thinking :)
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#416Just copy paste from here:
"Please remove all data you have on me. I do not consent with your privacy policy. I don't give permission for your organization to use any kind of information you have about me."
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#417Wow, a bunch of words, with no real promises worth a damn. I'm so impressed.
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I agree, my biggest concerns are: 1. What is happening to Atom? I have tried VS code and don't really like it due to the difference in how the 2 systems are designed to work (Atom being more "plugins are king", VSCode being more "kitchen sink included by first-party"). I'd hate to see my favorite editor lose it's major backing. If MS makes a commitment to continue to develop Atom, or they work with someone else to "t…
I'm curious if Electron will get a boost of some kind now. Considering how famous/notorious it is, MS could get a hell of a lot of goodwill here if they invest in the tech.
I'm sure we can look forward to the next electronconf not being cancelled.
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#419So I’m kind of depressed about this. I loved GitHub enough that I paid for a subscription without needing it and have all of my public work on it and my investment in OSS is quite significant. People saying that it is easy to migrate don’t know what they are talking about. GitHub isn’t just Git hosting, but a social network of open source developers and projects. You can’t migrate stars, issues with comments and the…
>People saying that it is easy to migrate don’t know what they are talking about.
You're right in a lot of ways.
A personal detail is that I've developed a bad habit of searching "github " when I need to find something. As if any project worth its salt is on github.
I'm changing that habit, I even started sharing my projects between github and gitlab over a year ago.
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This sounds proportionate if a state might go after the code. For example phone encryption might be a big prize for the Chinese or even American government. Microsoft actually hand over OS code to states regularly for certain contracts so I figure they don't need to protect most of thier code like that.
I disagree. Phone encryption should ideally be open source-able and it's security should rely as entirely on a device specific key as possible. I think this makes more sense for a secret project (e.x. the next iPhone), but honestly as a security person it seems overkill for anything outside national security responsible code, like state sponsored malware. I also find it strange that the code is apparently somehow acc…
For reading, I agree, but if you're making changes it is a different story.