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Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by jonny_eh »

bitL wrote: post #151
Klathmon wrote: post #64

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I agree, my biggest concerns are: 1. What is happening to Atom? I have tried VS code and don't really like it due to the difference in how the 2 systems are designed to work (Atom being more "plugins are king", VSCode being more "kitchen sink included by first-party"). I'd hate to see my favorite editor lose it's major backing. If MS makes a commitment to continue to develop Atom, or they work with someone else to "t…

I wouldn't be worried about Atom; half of Facebook is using it; if anything were to happen, they would fork it.

So MS is just going to pay engineer salaries to maintain a free tool used by FB?

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by pavelbr »

thiagocsf wrote: post #260
pknopf wrote: post #36

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> Maybe GitHub will be able to be a VSCode. The question is, what will happen to Atom? What will happen to the X-Ray research project?

I don’t understand why I keep reading “what about attom”. Atom is irrelevant to all of this, as far as I can tell. Can someone please educate me?

GitHub owns and maintains Atom, and it's biggest competitor is VS Code.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by joshbaptiste » 

  C:\GITHUB> git clone https://github.com/my/repository
  Cloning into repository...
  remote: Counting objects: 57583, done.
  remote: Compressing objects: 100% (36/36), done.
  ..................
  Resolving deltas: 100% (42949/42949), done.
  Install Bing Toolbar? (Y/n):

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by will4274 »

sdhgaiojfsa wrote: post #344
ggregoire wrote: post #42

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Yes same here. I’m really surprised by all the Microsoft hate as if we were still in the 80-90’s. MS is one of the biggest open source contributors nowadays. It's also really weird how people idealize GitHub. Did they forget GitHub was not a non-profit association, they were losing money, they deleted users repositories on their own, they had management issues, and people have been waiting some features for very long…

> MS is one of the biggest open source contributors nowadays. Really? For its size? It seems like Google, Apple, and Facebook are all much more productive in OSS. The only open source Microsoft product I'm aware of using is VS Code. To my understanding, they haven't open sourced Edge, their JS engine, their compiler, their word processors, or really anything else of note. I guess I can give them a little credit for .…

> their JS engine

https://github.com/Microsoft/ChakraCore

> their compiler

Microsoft makes half a dozen compilers, for as many languages:

https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn https://github.com/fsharp/fsharp https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell

The only one that I know of that is closed is C++.

> anything else of note

https://github.com/Microsoft/GVFS https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/16/microsoft-joins-the-linux-...

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by hawski »

mandeepj wrote: post #301
hawski wrote: post #267

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I don't fully understand point 2. Is just making GitHub better worth $7.5 billion dollars for Microsoft? It will stay independent for this pile of cash? Why they bought it? For prestige? For me the answer is that it can't be independent for long as it was (with VCs on its back was it ever?). It will gain Live login, maybe they will integrate it so you could login with your GitHub credentials to your computer if you s…

Answers are here for you - https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2018/06/04/microsoft-github... I'm posting them here for easy ref - 1. "Second, we will accelerate enterprise developers’ use of GitHub, with our direct sales and partner channels and access to Microsoft’s global cloud infrastructure and services. " Above means - More revenue for MS. 2. "Finally, we will bring Microsoft’s developer tools and services to new…

Thank you for information.

So integrating tools and services means dependence.

Disclaimer: I don't have a strong reaction against this acquisition. I always felt that one day I will migrate somewhere, but I'm not in a hurry.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by jonny_eh »

trynewideas wrote: post #195
Klathmon wrote: post #64

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I agree, my biggest concerns are: 1. What is happening to Atom? I have tried VS code and don't really like it due to the difference in how the 2 systems are designed to work (Atom being more "plugins are king", VSCode being more "kitchen sink included by first-party"). I'd hate to see my favorite editor lose it's major backing. If MS makes a commitment to continue to develop Atom, or they work with someone else to "t…

I'm more interested in how companies with private repos on GitHub react.

Especially those that compete with MS or their subsidiaries. But then again, Netflix uses AWS, so who knows?

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by shakibalawouz »

andyburke wrote: post #105
irrational wrote: post #68

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This is a serious question. How old are you? I'm wondering if you were a developer during the 1990s when MS was at its worst. I was and I still harbor deep hatred for all things MS. I wonder if the rest of the "skeptics" are coming from the same time period and those of you who are saying our concerns are unfounded are from a younger generation.

I'm not the person you're responding to, but I am turning 40 this year. I was also around for the terror that was Microsoft in the 90s when they were competing with Oracle for "company most desperately trying to kill open source". I had a similar deep hatred for MS. In the 00s I spent time as a video game developer and I was forced to use MS tools. And honestly, their developer tools were pretty good. Although I stil…

>The irony of Ballmer's "DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!" is palpable.

Well guess what? They just bought exactly that.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by theyinwhy »

Klathmon wrote: post #64
ericabiz wrote: post #7

I’m going to be a bit contrarian to “the sky is falling” posts on HN and say: I think Microsoft is handling this really well. 1) They’ve acknowledged the skepticism around the acquisition. 2) They’ve expressed their commitment to keep GitHub an independent platform (like they did with LinkedIn.) 3) Nat Friedman, although I was not familiar with him prior to this, seems like an ideal candidate to run GitHub. This, ove…

I agree, my biggest concerns are: 1. What is happening to Atom? I have tried VS code and don't really like it due to the difference in how the 2 systems are designed to work (Atom being more "plugins are king", VSCode being more "kitchen sink included by first-party"). I'd hate to see my favorite editor lose it's major backing. If MS makes a commitment to continue to develop Atom, or they work with someone else to "t…

Contributing has always been different for each project and I don't see any real benefit by using github regarding that topic.

Biggest hurdles normally are: - big chunk, own branch, small chunks? - Contract to sign? - signed commits, unsigned commits? - changelog file? - patch via mail? - extra review tool? ...

In the end it's always a git push. Github only makes it look more beautiful.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by jenscow »

Great news for open source.

Perhaps now all the companies in the MS silo are going to learn how OSS is something that can be taken seriously.

I've worked in enterprise where using open source tends to be frowned upon. This was mostly due to the FUD from Microsoft.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by jonny_eh »

sequoia wrote: post #316
dorfsmay wrote: post #108

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Because people with closed source, the paying customers, now have to trust their potential biggest competitor with their source code ‽

Are you suggesting MSFT is going to _steal people's code_ from private github repositories? This strikes me as a bit fantastical. What software hosting platform is not also itself a software company? Atlassian, Gitlab...?

What if you run a recruitment web app that competes with LinkedIn?
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