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Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Yeah it's very cringe to watch. A grown man being exited about personal emois on a phone. Really?

Yet teens are a very popular demographic for buying iPhones, so if they like it, so what?

I'm a developer using the mac as a programming and devops system. I do not want teen features to be the best thing about my next upgrade. I want it to be about the computer feeling faster, smoother, better. You know, like an operating system feature?

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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post #97

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Always interesting to see the divergence between HN and what the average user cares about. For most people emojis (and animojis) have opened a whole new way to communicate with each other. I can't think of another linguistic feature in history which saw such widespread use within a decade and I feel like emojis don't get enough credit for that.

How is an emoji a whole new way to communicate? EDIT: I meant this as a genuine question, not as a "how could you possibly think this" response.

:(

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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I'm continually amazed at how much Apple hypes up the most pointless, useless, basic things. This is a new version of a major operating system, and we get... the desktop organized by filetype. A built-in stock application. How is an App Store update considered part of an OS update?

What on earth are you complaining about? It's an annual, incremental OS release. We're not talking about multi-year developments or grand visions. There are a bunch of features that look quite nice from a usability standpoint, some improvements to the App Store, and a crack at a unified development platform for iOS and macOS. Those seem like a pretty reasonable set of features to roll out, and no doubt they'll be acc…

I think a lot of people have lost sight of this.

OS X/macOS has had releases (since version 10.0) after:

    0 months, 10.0 released
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I think I got them all right. When you wait 1.5-2 years between releases, it's reasonable to expect more extensive changes. But every 12 months, the big changes won't happen every single year.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Does Safari have a night mode? Most of my work at night is either in Mail (which should be relatively easy to enable night mode on) or a web browser. Obviously, third-party browsers will have to decide whether to support night mode, but I wonder if Safari will have support when Mojave is released. I imagine it won't be trivial to do this, especially on pages that have a background image. You don't want to invert it,…

Doubtful. Night Mode will most likely only affect application chrome and menus that use Dynamic System Color [1] named colors, not the actual content within the app (i.e. images, webpages, documents, etc)

Websites will be entirely unaffected as they have they're own custom CSS palettes.

[1] https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guideline...

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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But... where are the new macs?

This is WWDC. They don't typically announce new hardware there in recent years.

Not so sure about this. WWDC 2017 (last year) had all of these announcements: - New iMac Pro - New iPad Pro 10.5 - New HomePod - Updated iMac - Updated MacBook - Updated MacBook Pros

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Wow, they are DEPRECATING OpenGL from both macOS and iOS: https://developer.apple.com/macos/whats-new/ This is in addition to last year's announcement that "macOS High Sierra is the last version of macOS to run 32bit apps without compromise " I wonder if we will soon see a new lineage of Macbooks fitted with Apple-specific arm64 chips. The most scary thought is if UIKit-on-macOS starts requiring Developer ID entitlem…

I would be a lot more okay with this if Apple supported Vulkan, the more portable comparable API, rather than just the macOS/iOS-only Metal. I also wonder what means for WebGL and its future. Right now, WebGL works in browsers on macOS, Linux, Windows, iOS, Android, which is incredible. There is no equivalent. Sure, Apple has started working on WebGPU, but that’s not yet ready nor is it guaranteed to gain Linux, Wind…

My guess is browsers will just implement WebGL on top of Metal and this will be transparent to web developers.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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post #97

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Always interesting to see the divergence between HN and what the average user cares about. For most people emojis (and animojis) have opened a whole new way to communicate with each other. I can't think of another linguistic feature in history which saw such widespread use within a decade and I feel like emojis don't get enough credit for that.

How is an emoji a whole new way to communicate? EDIT: I meant this as a genuine question, not as a "how could you possibly think this" response.

Because it uses pictures instead of words.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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post #33

Wow, they are DEPRECATING OpenGL from both macOS and iOS: https://developer.apple.com/macos/whats-new/ This is in addition to last year's announcement that "macOS High Sierra is the last version of macOS to run 32bit apps without compromise " I wonder if we will soon see a new lineage of Macbooks fitted with Apple-specific arm64 chips. The most scary thought is if UIKit-on-macOS starts requiring Developer ID entitlem…

> DEPRECATING OpenGL

Wow, does this mean Maya, Houdini, and basically every 3D package out there will no longer run on macOS? If so that seriously sucks for 3D pros.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

#139
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Always interesting to see the divergence between HN and what the average user cares about. For most people emojis (and animojis) have opened a whole new way to communicate with each other. I can't think of another linguistic feature in history which saw such widespread use within a decade and I feel like emojis don't get enough credit for that.

How is an emoji a whole new way to communicate? EDIT: I meant this as a genuine question, not as a "how could you possibly think this" response.

Sometimes I'd like to think that it prevents misunderstandings. But that's probably very subjective.

I'd also guess that just because they feature it heavily on the keynote that a huge team spent the whole year only working on just Emojis. That doesn't mean that there weren't a lot of other teams doing important ground work and internal improvements that are not that easy to showcase on a keynote for a very diverse audience and press.

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