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Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by madeofpalk » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 7:53 PM UTC

ihuman wrote: post #36

janlukacs wrote: post #14

WWDC 2018, from underwhelming to boring. I will lose my mind if i hear *oji one more time. Will they ever stop with this nonsense? Favicons in Safari? It took them 6 years for the browser to remember the zoom setting per site, now we have the luxury of having favicons.

Bitmoji and Animoji were already popular, so it makes sense for Apple to combine the two (and sherlock Bitmoji).

> and sherlock Bitmoji

Considering Animoji and Memoji are only in Apple's Messaging app/iMessage, I think Bitmoji will be fine as long as Snapchat is fine (which, well, isn't certain).

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by cosmotron » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 7:53 PM UTC

tomsmeding wrote: post #63

logiclabs wrote: post #57

OMG!!! But Dark mode!!! It's like, so, so cool ... I can't believe I can be allowed to change the colours of the desktop after years of Jony Ive dictating/advising what my desktop should look like.

This has existed for a while already, I believe at least since Yosemite. EDIT: Sorry, I didn't even read TFA. Wonder what they're talking about then.

The main difference is that, while you have already been able to change the menu bar and dock to a dark color scheme, the update coming in Mojave allows the window chrome to be dark too (note Finder being dark in the article).

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by gnicholas » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 7:54 PM UTC

Does Safari have a night mode? Most of my work at night is either in Mail (which should be relatively easy to enable night mode on) or a web browser. Obviously, third-party browsers will have to decide whether to support night mode, but I wonder if Safari will have support when Mojave is released.

I imagine it won't be trivial to do this, especially on pages that have a background image. You don't want to invert it, but leaving it as-is would ruin the night mode effect. Plus, you have to maintain sufficient contrast with foreground text.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by ajeet_dhaliwal » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 7:54 PM UTC

Been waiting for a proper dark mode, this is awesome. Also group FaceTime will be good.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by grzm » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 7:54 PM UTC

bwang29 wrote: post #52

I feel the system wide dark mode is the next step from Night Shift mode to acknowledge or encourage people to work more toward late night/evenings. Eye fatigue has been one of the reason my body reminds me to go to sleep, now I can maybe deal with some more emails before I head to bed.

Night Shift (and perhaps Dark Mode as well) work to decrease the amount of light towards the blue end of the spectrum as in the evening to mimic the natural spectrum shift and help people sleep, rather than mimic bright mid-day light. It's not to reduce eye fatigue and get people to work more: it's to help them relax and sleep better at night. Here's an article that discusses it in a bit more depth.

http://www.businessinsider.com/iphone-night-shift-blue-light...

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by jaxondu » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 7:55 PM UTC

saudioger wrote: post #47

mattbrewsbytes wrote: post #20

MacOS will not be replaced by iOS, but they will bring UIKit to MacOS so you can port apps. That sounds like they are unifying the two OS's to me, or I am mis-remembering the question Tim Cook answered with a definitive No?

More like: No...t yet

On stage Craig answers the question “will macOS and iOS merge” with a big NO, at least for as long as the guy is still with Apple.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by hujun » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 7:56 PM UTC

one side note: the WWDC18 video on apple's website is wrongly linked to the video of previous education event in Chicago

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by drunken-serval » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 7:56 PM UTC

aldanor wrote: post #9

jumelles wrote: post #6

I'm continually amazed at how much Apple hypes up the most pointless, useless, basic things. This is a new version of a major operating system, and we get... the desktop organized by filetype. A built-in stock application. How is an App Store update considered part of an OS update?

I can't help shuddering everytime Craig presents (is forced to present? is paid to present?) the... omg... wait for it... the new set of animojis, on stage.

Well, I get excited about this stuff. I really like Telegram because of the stickers. I get stupidly excited every time I find a new sticker pack I like.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by Tomte » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 7:56 PM UTC

butterfi wrote: post #75

Was I crazy in thinking that this WWDC was supposed to address MacBookPro's being outdated?

No, but it was always a "may happen, may not happen" thing.

WWDC is about software first and foremost. This year they decided not to dilute it with anything hardware.

That wasn't a given, but it wasn't surprising, either.

Re: Apple introduces macOS Mojave

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Post by Clubber » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 7:56 PM UTC

milhous wrote: post #34

forgotmypw wrote: post #4

Does anyone know where the hardware support is listed?

From the Press Release under "Availability" "macOS Mojave will be available this fall as a free software update for Macs introduced in mid-2012 or later, plus 2010 and 2012 Mac Pro models with recommended Metal-capable graphics cards." Looks like it's the end of the road for my 2010 Mac mini running High Sierra. So long as Photos and Photo Stream continue to work, I'm not complaining. It was a good run.

Check ebay. I recently bought a 2013 Mac Pro off ebay for a good price. My 2009 Mac Pro was no longer supported. I figure the 2013s will probably have another 5 years after whatever new model they come out with next year.