Exodus from GitHub, but just not to SourceForge

Post by briffle » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 3:45 PM UTC

briffle wrote: post #36

yodon wrote: post #22

This exodus is precisely why Microsoft bought github, and why Microsoft built VS Code, and why it is open sourcing .NET Core and why it is shipping Linux integration into Windows and all the other huge moves the company is making. They recognize they lost the hearts and minds of developers. They are fixing that. Not fixed. Fixing. It’ll take the better part of a decade and some people will never change. Five years ag…

Yet most of their other tools still don't work on Linux, and have no public roadmap to, or any kind of comments on.. I'm waiting on my MS Teams client.... I can understand the older software, that might have lots of history, legacy libraries, etc, but Teams is a brand new tool they are just releasing.. They have a chrome plugin, but it requires you install an MSI.

Post by stuntkite » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 3:48 PM UTC

rblatz wrote: post #39

stuntkite wrote: post #35

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I remember back when 15ish years ago when SourceForge was a neat thing. I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why I would go there for any reason. Let alone host anything I cared about on that domain. It's not even death by a thousand cuts, which y'all have done to yourself, but you also just failed to provide anything in the last 10 years that felt like it wasn't a cop out. Ignoring the abysmal failures and adwar…

You are replying to the new CEO that bought sourceforge in 2016 and stopped the shady behavior and terrible practices.

Post by out_of_protocol » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 3:52 PM UTC

optimuspaul wrote: post #15

some_account wrote: post #12

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Please tell me you are trolling people. You can't seriously believe what you are writing here. Microsoft is an ugly company with ugly business practices and they are absolutely not trying to save anybody.

Have you been paying attention to Microsoft over the past few years? They have an ugly past, but they are a different company now. I actually think this is a good thing for the community. I for one am sticking with GitHub.

Post by dpark » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 4:08 PM UTC

bjpbakker wrote: post #38

optimuspaul wrote: post #15

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Have you been paying attention to Microsoft over the past few years? They have an ugly past, but they are a different company now. I actually think this is a good thing for the community. I for one am sticking with GitHub.

> they are a different company now To name a some of their recent misbehavior: Windows 10 ads and telemetry, Skype, GPL license violation (ie still actively working against FOSS) To me MS keeps proving they are still exactly the same company they've always been. They tend to be better at hiding it from public, I have to give them that.

Post by crankylinuxuser » Mon, Jun 04, 2018, 4:15 PM UTC

zgramana wrote: post #33

alexeiz wrote: post #14

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> Microsoft is trying to save a vital company... So Microsoft is in the "company saving" business now? This couldn't be farther from the truth. They bought Github not to save it, but to use it as a resource for whatever goals they deem appropriate. And I really doubt Microsoft's goals align with open source well.

SMH. I used to work for Nat at Xamarin before it was acquired by MSFT. GitHub and Xamarin have had a long and deep relationship going back to at least 2012 (that I’m aware of anyway). Xamarin was run on GitHub. We never used any other version control system. GitHub used Xamarin extensively as well. There were a lot of overlapping social graphs between the engineers of both as well. Miguel and Nat both helped to make…