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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by oaiey »

nojvek wrote: post #345
mbesto wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> acquisition GitHub will be led by Nat Friedman, the former CEO of Xamarin, which has some credibility Credibility of what? He's a Microsoft employee, being paid by Microsoft, and has made a ton of money by selling his company to Microsoft. Follow the money and you'll find nothing but allegiance to Microsoft and it's corporate goals. For the record - I don't think MS is as nefarious as people here are insinuating, I…

Funny story about him. He wanted to get a Job at Microsoft and wasn’t hired because he didn’t have the qualifications. Then he built Xamarin and made it a great C# open source tool to build apps. M$ really loved it and bought the company. Now he’s leading GitHub. That’s awesome. Microsoft does have a dark history, it’s also a huge company and Terry Meyerson (windows lead) was an aweful leader. Things definitely chang…

The job part is not the story of Nat Friedman but Migual de Icaza.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by markbnj »

mkirklions wrote: post #124
bad_user wrote: post #32

People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…

Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans. Like I understand if you bought an Xbox, but I dont understand if you are a programmer. Microsoft has always been a headache. Recently its been a tiny bit better, but they still are a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit. This was to make Microsoft money, nothing to 'help programmers'.

Not "always." I started working with Microsoft dev tools in the late 80's and early 90's after Borland's sun began to set (in no small part because MS poached a lot of their best people). There was a time when MS was the developer's best friend, and tools like the early versions of MSDN gave unprecedented access to information that previously had been very hard to get (raise your hand if you ever paid over $100USD for a manual from IBM). Of course back then the FOSS community did not exist, and the alternatives were old line players like IBM, Digital and Sun. Things are different now. My major concern is not that the company is somehow still evil in a Ballmer-esque way, but rather that their focus on enterprise customers will inevitably lead to changes in the core Github offering. We'll see.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by Someone1234 »

shmerl wrote: post #281
bad_user wrote: post #32

People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…

MS claimed APIs are copyrightable. MS strongly pushes lock-in in markets where they have strong presence. It shows they haven't changed enough to trust them with anything.

> MS claimed APIs are copyrightable.

When was that? Oracle famously has, but I haven't read Microsoft's version of the same.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by workinthehead »

wooter wrote: post #366
sixothree wrote: post #342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not like anything about github is open source. Maybe that will change.

well, there was the atom editor. which now i fully expect msft to kill in favor of vs code. damn it.

How would they kill it? It's open source.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by madebysquares »

spooneybarger wrote: post #211
madebysquares wrote: post #122

Curious why they are changing CEOs if they want to continue the culture and community.

GitHub CEO stepped down in August 2017. They haven't had anyone in the role since then.

I was not aware of all the CEO troubles, makes sense then, on that front.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by topspin »

Delmania wrote: post #425
bad_user wrote: post #32

People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…

> Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? How is it spying when they present you with a full screen detailing data collection with the option to turn it off, and have several blog posts providing details. > Do they not engage in patents racketeering? It's not much of an excuse, but all tech companies do this. > Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? Didn't they give Windows Mobile one hell of a run? Like they tr…

>> And Skype, I don't know. I use it in a daily basis. It doesn't seem to be that bad.

Likewise. I know they neglected the Linux client (which I used to use) for years and then replaced it with some new browser based thing. This 'ruined Skype' claim has been made several times with each Microsoft buys GitHub story. What exactly do people have in mind when they claim Skype was ruined?

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by slrz »

dmarlow wrote: post #465
Dayshine wrote: post #255

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My understanding is that the debugger is an adapted version of the closed source Visual Studio debugger. Visual Studio isn't open source, and is a paid for product. It takes time to break things out from inside a larger closed source project...

Some editions are, I suppose. For many things VS Community is free though.

I don't think any editions of Visual Studio are available as Open Source software. The Community thingie is gratis but doesn't come with source code.

There's VSCode (is that OSS?) but that's not an edition of VS but rather a whole different product.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by Totoradio »

wooter wrote: post #366
sixothree wrote: post #342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not like anything about github is open source. Maybe that will change.

well, there was the atom editor. which now i fully expect msft to kill in favor of vs code. damn it.

VsCode is open source too: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by Someone1234 »

jopsen wrote: post #420
Someone1234 wrote: post #247

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The Surface RT was discontinued in 2015, and was manufactured in 2012. Is this an six year old anecdote? Sorry, but these days I feel like there are more anecdotes involving the Surface RT to prove that "Microsoft hates Linux" than there are actual Surface RT devices still in active usage, but yet people still eat this stuff up. > That's their endgame whenever possible. Their "endgame" was six years ago and hasn't co…

> The Surface RT was discontinued in 2015, and was manufactured in 2012. Is this an eight year old anecdote? The current year is 2018, right? Or did I miss something :)

You're right, Monday morning. :)

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by binthere »

Touche wrote: post #92

If you're wondering why they bought GitHub, it's here: > Second, we will accelerate enterprise developers’ use of GitHub, with our direct sales and partner channels and access to Microsoft’s global cloud infrastructure and services. This is it. At one time Microsoft used to dominate enterprise software development in certain areas (most of the east coast in the U.S.) to such a degree that it was almost impossible to…

This is probably the most important reason. Microsoft is doubling down on cloud, and they are willing to do anything to get ahead in this game. This is the sole reason why stocks are going up for Microsoft.
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