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I still see Microsoft's predictable behavior in 2018. I have a friend who owns a Surface, and I was thinking it would be useful to put Linux on it (it was older ARM hardware). Well you can't, it's a Surface RT and Microsoft not only locks the bootloader but it also only runs Microsoft approved apps. That's their endgame whenever possible. Apparently people didn't like having fully locked down computers and they disco…
People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…
Yep, I really dont understand why there are Microsoft fans. Like I understand if you bought an Xbox, but I dont understand if you are a programmer. Microsoft has always been a headache. Recently its been a tiny bit better, but they still are a for-profit company that needs to continue to make a profit. This was to make Microsoft money, nothing to 'help programmers'.
Unlike Microsoft, however, they can't seem to make GUIs where the font metrics are right (eg. can you read the text properly or does the text overlap or end up being too big or too small for the space?) or scrollbars.
Linux is a winner for server apps but on the desktop it seems to get worse over time, not better.
I'm excited by this. I feel trapped between Google who will give everything away in exchange for spying on me, and Apple who will respect my privacy but shake me upside down with the most ridiculous vendor lock-in tactics. I'm glad someone as powerful as Microsoft can play the underdog role and provide a viable third alternative. Windows laptops that run Linux well enough for development. VS Code. I now develop on my…
> Microsoft will fix that. You have no way of knowing what Microsoft will or will not fix. This is just blind hype.
I think you're mistaking your blind hate for my blind hype
> And Microsoft is all-in on open source. We have been on a journey with open source, and today we are active in the open source ecosystem, we contribute to open source projects, and some of our most vibrant developer tools and frameworks are open source. When it comes to our commitment to open source, judge us by the actions we have taken in the recent past, our actions today, and in the future. It’s a fair point bu…
I can understand those concerns, but what can they do to convince you they have changed?
* Drop MSVC for Clang or GCC
* Drop Edge for Firefox or Chromium
because they love open-source, right?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
It doesn't have to be astroturfing. Repeatedly exposing HN readers to the same news would be a good way to gradually increase positive opinion until a desirable threshold is reached ("the first positive top comment").
You'll have to walk me through your logic on that again. How is repeated exposure more likely to increase positive opinion?
(PDF) http://erewhon.superkuh.com/library/Neuroscience/Psychology/...
"When it comes to our commitment to open source, judge us by the actions we have taken in the recent past, our actions today, and in the future." How is that patent extortion going then? Still earning you money? Any plans to stop in "the near future"? Didn't think so. I'm sure Microsoft will improve github. Just like it improved skype.
Is that last one sarcastic? Because with Skype they finally tossed the 15-20 year old client with a slick (and lacking in features) electron-like app. Better to start fresh than try and maintain the old shit. Anyway Skype is a non-issue, it's lost market thanks to pretty much everyone making a chat app / competitor, notably Slack.
I think that's a pretty false statement in the world of big business.
I still see Microsoft's predictable behavior in 2018. I have a friend who owns a Surface, and I was thinking it would be useful to put Linux on it (it was older ARM hardware). Well you can't, it's a Surface RT and Microsoft not only locks the bootloader but it also only runs Microsoft approved apps. That's their endgame whenever possible. Apparently people didn't like having fully locked down computers and they disco…
Sorry, but these days I feel like there are more anecdotes involving the Surface RT to prove that "Microsoft hates Linux" than there are actual Surface RT devices still in active usage, but yet people still eat this stuff up.
> That's their endgame whenever possible.
Their "endgame" was six years ago and hasn't come back since..?
People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…
> Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Have they not killed Nokia or ruined Skype? I don't think one can say they killed Nokia. Nokia's phone business was basically doomed after Android gained traction, and Microsoft just helped the company to pivot by overpaying for that part of the business, while leaving Nokia with everything that actually was making money.
I'm actually kind of surprised that HN permits clear marketing babble headlines like this, vs a more objective "Microsoft acquires Github" headline.
Empower, extend, extinguish? Or was it different?
I’m so tired of this trope. It’s like nothing Microsoft does is ever enough for people to realize that there is enough new leadership that isn’t doing this nonsense. Is there any evidence in the Nadella years of MS doing this in the way they used to do this in the 90s?
He's been there since 1992. That means that if he was so ethically challenged that he could sit through that without piping up that I have very little hope that there is a real and sincere change happening. Most of what I see is just very clever PR whilst under the hood not much has changed.
They just got a lot smarter about keeping their nastiness out of the public light. The reason why the 'trope' gets trotted out is because this could very well be the part where Microsoft finally gets to 'embrace' the open source world where they can hurt it for real. Keep in mind that nothing comes close to threatening Microsoft at its core business as open source software does.