Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox

Post by cpeterso » Sat, Jun 02, 2018, 6:07 AM UTC

azernik wrote: post #213

tomrittervg wrote: post #100

Hi all. I am a Tor Project Developer and work at Mozilla on this project. We appreciate everyone's enthusiasm and feedback. Our ultimate goal is a long way away because of the amount of work to do and the necessity to match the safety of Tor Browser in Firefox when providing a Tor mode. There's no guarantee this will happen, but I hope it will and we will keep working towards it. If anyone is interested in assisting…

> Our ultimate goal is a long way away because of the amount of work to do and the necessity to match the safety of Tor Browser in Firefox when providing a Tor mode. If that doesn't pan out, do you expect the ongoing work on this project to reduce the size of the patches that the Tor Browser project needs to carry on top of the Firefox trunk?

Post by kodablah » Sat, Jun 02, 2018, 6:51 AM UTC

Vinnl wrote: post #232

kodablah wrote: post #211

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This: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers

I know the extension, but what does that have to do with informing users about not using their account when browsing with Tor? Heck, informing users about being able to use different accounts with Multi-Account Containers was already such a hard problem that they opted into shipping it as a separate extension, so it's only used by power users.

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jun 02, 2018, 3:41 PM UTC

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #79

aseipp wrote: post #75

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Is it even worth talking about speed without at least considering client network conditions? A lot of people have poor internet connections, many places world-over are basically mobile-internet only already, shared internet spaces with variable QoS (campuses), etc etc. Most people aren't using engineer-priced laptops/workstations or backed by enterprise-grade routing equipment, after all.

If I understand Tor correctly, last mile connectivity is not a bottleneck.

Post by jerheinze » Sat, Jun 02, 2018, 7:14 PM UTC

wpdev_63 wrote: post #236

Have you considered also implementing I2P[0] in parallel with tor? It suppose to be harder to analyze traffic at nodes with I2p though it isn't as battletested as tor. [0]: https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor

Post by lucb1e » Sat, Jun 02, 2018, 11:37 PM UTC

jandrese wrote: post #167

pricechild wrote: post #164

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That said, plenty of providers use the list of tor relays (which is also public) to block traffic. Sites such as https://www.dan.me.uk/dnsbl then help people do this. That site in particular may "warn": > This DNS blacklist contains ALL tor nodes (entry, transit and exit nodes) - think carefully before choosing to use this list for blocking purposes. but anyone who doesn't understand tor simply won't understand the d…

As someone who has run a relay on my home network for years now this has never come up. At least not that I've been able to discern. I think it might be a problem if I also ran a mail server from home, but almost nobody does that anymore.