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Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox

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Re: Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox

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"Multi-Account Containers"

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this comment, but if you mean that their approach would be similar to MAC, in the sense that "super private browsing" would have to be enabled in about:config or through an extension: that would make sense.

This: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers

Re: Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox

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> We always could do that with extensions You couldn't, until Firefox 59. Before that, protocol handlers were not allowed to handle links to Dat/IPFS resources [0]. And while I agree with your comment regarding the chicken and egg problem, there are still some technical issues. As the shadowbanned sibling comment says, extensions don't have access to UDP/TCP sockets, meaning that you will need to run a gateway on you…

> You couldn't, until Firefox 59. Before that, protocol handlers were not allowed to handle links to Dat/IPFS resources [0]. You could, kind of, before Firefox 57 (or at least, at some point). Implementing nsIProtocolHandler/nsIChannel/etc. correctly was difficult (and probably not from JavaScript), and distribution problems meant nobody did it.

No, not nobody. OverbiteFF was implemented in nearly exactly that fashion, and 100% JavaScript.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/overbiteff/

But, not possible anymore (without tricks).

Re: Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox

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Hi all. I am a Tor Project Developer and work at Mozilla on this project. We appreciate everyone's enthusiasm and feedback. Our ultimate goal is a long way away because of the amount of work to do and the necessity to match the safety of Tor Browser in Firefox when providing a Tor mode. There's no guarantee this will happen, but I hope it will and we will keep working towards it. If anyone is interested in assisting…

> Our ultimate goal is a long way away because of the amount of work to do and the necessity to match the safety of Tor Browser in Firefox when providing a Tor mode.

If that doesn't pan out, do you expect the ongoing work on this project to reduce the size of the patches that the Tor Browser project needs to carry on top of the Firefox trunk?

Re: Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox

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> How many more "super private browsing mode" Firefox users will there be? Potentially hundreds of millions of daily users. Tor has hundreds of millions of daily users?

https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-relay-country.html

Does anyone know what caused the big spike in users at the end of last year?

Re: Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox

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> How many more "super private browsing mode" Firefox users will there be? Potentially hundreds of millions of daily users. Tor has hundreds of millions of daily users?

That quote doesn't say currently hundreds of millions of daily tor users. That quote says that in the future, when firefox includes tor by default, there might become hundreds of millions of daily tor users.

Re: Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox

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That said, plenty of providers use the list of tor relays (which is also public) to block traffic. Sites such as https://www.dan.me.uk/dnsbl then help people do this. That site in particular may "warn": > This DNS blacklist contains ALL tor nodes (entry, transit and exit nodes) - think carefully before choosing to use this list for blocking purposes. but anyone who doesn't understand tor simply won't understand the d…

I had nothing but pain when trying to run an exit node. Every site behind cloudflair would captcha me on what seemed like every page. Cox shut off my internet every other week due to "computers on my network being infected with viruses", and I'd have to call their support and tell them I cant be infected I only run linux at home. I could do some shenanigans on my modem and end up with a new dynamic IP from cox, but g…

Tor publishes a list of all exit nodes, anyone could have flagged your new IP as an exit immediately after your client reconnected to the network.

Re: Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox

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That wouldn't be as big an issue if all the nodes were very well connected, like positioned near big peering points, but they're not.

The "distributed all over the world" part would still be just as much of an issue; the speed of light puts a substantial lower bound on the total latency.

True, but pinging from one hub to another is way faster than someone's cable modem in Mumbai to someone's in Australia to someone's in Peru and back again. Those last miles add up in a huge way.

Re: Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox

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I am starting to feel firefox in a serious way. But im just sooo concerned that their software still sucks. I mean, we ARE talking about a company who thought it was smart to spend time trying to build a javascript OS for mobile.

So let me ask again. When are you guys going to start building firefox from the ground up and make the perfect browser we all deserve?

And if you disagree, please. Present your arguments. I am the person you need to sell right now.

Re: Mozilla Project Fusion: Tor Integration into Firefox

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I am starting to feel firefox in a serious way. But im just sooo concerned that their software still sucks. I mean, we ARE talking about a company who thought it was smart to spend time trying to build a javascript OS for mobile. So let me ask again. When are you guys going to start building firefox from the ground up and make the perfect browser we all deserve? And if you disagree, please. Present your arguments. I…

Building the perfect browser from the ground up?

Do you remember netscape?

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