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Why? If they make it so obvious of course there will be outrage. What everybody with some brains would actually do is slow down the approval process and really look for all kinds of unimportant small details that the update doesn't fulfill "yet".
So why is Signal updating?
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Why? If they make it so obvious of course there will be outrage. What everybody with some brains would actually do is slow down the approval process and really look for all kinds of unimportant small details that the update doesn't fulfill "yet".
So why is Signal updating?
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So why is Signal updating?
Because the People of Interest to Russia happen to use Telegram, not Signal.
From all the articles I have read about this Telegram seems to offer no evidence to supports its case. Further more it claims its only iOS, and not macOS. And I personally have gotten at least several updates for at least the mac version over the past month.
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I guess my brain is too small to grok this all in one go but are you saying that Russia is applying pressure to Apple (what pressure?) that prevents Apple App Stores in all countries from accepting a new update of Telegram I don't get this - why is Telegram not releasing updates in a UK or Japanese region? What pressure (besides the local russian court system) is being applied here --- In general yes I expect that ap…
We don't have any evidence, apart from Durov's allegations, that Telegram's situation with Apple has anything to do with Russia.
I mean we presumably do have Russian court Records from April, records that the Roskomnadzor went to court for encryption keys, and that there have been "shutting down entire segments of the Russian internet. Many small organizations, including language schools and museums, have been blocked as collateral damage." And evidence there was a demonstration with paper aeroplanes?
I am happy to accept that Durov has an axe to grind but Russia does look like a good suspect to start looking at first.
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Why? If they make it so obvious of course there will be outrage. What everybody with some brains would actually do is slow down the approval process and really look for all kinds of unimportant small details that the update doesn't fulfill "yet".
So why is Signal updating?
I'd given this challenge some thought in the recent past, specifically the challenge that the big app store owners are each generally susceptible to coercion by large nation-state actors in spite of being multinationally distributed. There was a project I was involved in rather heavily (cyph // resulted in a pair of neat conference talks) where we'd accounted for the risks of apps being banned by making the entire ap…
I guess my brain is too small to grok this all in one go but are you saying that Russia is applying pressure to Apple (what pressure?) that prevents Apple App Stores in all countries from accepting a new update of Telegram I don't get this - why is Telegram not releasing updates in a UK or Japanese region? What pressure (besides the local russian court system) is being applied here --- In general yes I expect that ap…
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We don't have any evidence, apart from Durov's allegations, that Telegram's situation with Apple has anything to do with Russia.
So this is Telegram saying "oh we forgot to update for GDPR because err ... umm ... err ... Russia!"? I mean we presumably do have Russian court Records from April, records that the Roskomnadzor went to court for encryption keys, and that there have been "shutting down entire segments of the Russian internet. Many small organizations, including language schools and museums, have been blocked as collateral damage." An…
There are reasonable explanations between "Telegram is directly responsible for the delay" and "Russia made Apple hold up the app worldwide."
> Russia does look like a good suspect to start looking at first
Start. The discussion I'm seeing treats this as a foregone conclusion. That's all I'm cautioning in respect of.
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We don't have any evidence, apart from Durov's allegations, that Telegram's situation with Apple has anything to do with Russia.
So this is Telegram saying "oh we forgot to update for GDPR because err ... umm ... err ... Russia!"? I mean we presumably do have Russian court Records from April, records that the Roskomnadzor went to court for encryption keys, and that there have been "shutting down entire segments of the Russian internet. Many small organizations, including language schools and museums, have been blocked as collateral damage." An…
What we don't have any evidence for is that these are in any way related to Telegram's inability to get updates approved by Apple. This is speculation based on the above claims which do have evidence.
I'd given this challenge some thought in the recent past, specifically the challenge that the big app store owners are each generally susceptible to coercion by large nation-state actors in spite of being multinationally distributed. There was a project I was involved in rather heavily (cyph // resulted in a pair of neat conference talks) where we'd accounted for the risks of apps being banned by making the entire ap…
I guess my brain is too small to grok this all in one go but are you saying that Russia is applying pressure to Apple (what pressure?) that prevents Apple App Stores in all countries from accepting a new update of Telegram I don't get this - why is Telegram not releasing updates in a UK or Japanese region? What pressure (besides the local russian court system) is being applied here --- In general yes I expect that ap…
I presume earlier Apple just gave in a bit to the pressure and stopped updates to help them censor the app.