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I put all my personal data on eBay

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Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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So maybe in the future we accept payment upfront for our privacy or through incideously free services.

I believe you meant insidiously ? Not sure why you make it sound so sinister.

Right word. A world where you may have no privacy and must choose how it is sold (directly, indirectly) is insidious.

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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There are a couple companies that are working in that space: https://datacoup.com/ https://datawallet.com/#protect A more detailed reddit thread about them: https://www.reddit.com/r/beermoney/comments/8btjah/16_passiv...

I am quite interested in the BAT (Basic Attention Token) project. Using the Brave browser you can either block ads normally or choose to view Brave ads, and the difference with Brave ads is that the viewer gets paid--- in tokens, that is. They can then use the accumulated BAT tokens to send micropayments to platforms and content that they like or peruse frequently. Pretty cool incentive system. And Brave is a really…

Yeah, but it begs the question, why would anyone want BAT tokens?

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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post #131

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I believe you meant insidiously ? Not sure why you make it sound so sinister.

Right word. A world where you may have no privacy and must choose how it is sold (directly, indirectly) is insidious.

Your phrasing is rather off then. Your original statement was that we might perhaps, in the future, accept payment upfront for our privacy (whatever that might mean--are we getting paid for our data or for our privacy?) or that we'd be paid through insidiously free services. So ... how are these insidiously free services paying us? In features? More specifically, because of your phrasing, how are they paying us in this potential future for our privacy?

Your clarification here makes your intention far clearer than your original comment did. It doesn't look like you're concerned with how we might be paid; instead, you're attempting to shine a light on the problem of being paid for our personal data / intruding on our privacy at all. Am I parsing you correctly now?

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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post #35

Hey @olifrost, presumably this contains personally identifiable information of several individuals connected to you - are you seeking their individual consent too?

Why should he? I don't have a Facebook account and yet people post pictures of me without my consent.

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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If you tried to sell your on ATM number and PIN or SSN# and Credit Card Credentials, your Ebay account would be shut down in less than 24hrs. You would be guilty of "identity theft" for not adequately protecting your own identity. (i.e. credit worthiness)

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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post #97

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This is not a satire. I can easily see a service where people can simple upload their FB data and the service bundles it up in to groups of 10,000 for sell, takes 30% cut and distributes rest of the proceeds. There are tons of folks who have most of their posts public on FB would be willing to do this. There are companies who wants to model users, train/test algorithms would be willing to pay for it.

How will it be verified if profile is real or fake?

This is a major problem. There's no guarantee the data is real, and most of the people who have to sell their old data clearly don't have much buying power regardless.

But, imagine if they were selling a real-time feed of what they're actually browsing. Imagine if authenticity verification was possible by closed software and hardware (totally not pointing android here). Then the data would definitely be worth something. And the more "clients" you have, the more they're worth.

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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Selling your personal data as an individual is not going to work (yes, I understand this is a joke posting). If your data has to be re-imported into the various systems that normally exchange consumer profiles (advertising platforms for instance) it will be a net loss, besides that the chances of you hitting one of the properties is nil. So without the association between your profile and your online presence that da…

There are some people[0][1][2] want to sell your data and use your data to train ML. [0] https://synapse.ai/ [1] httsp://datum.org/ [2] http://doct.ai/

Second link says sp instead of ps if you care

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not a satire. I can easily see a service where people can simple upload their FB data and the service bundles it up in to groups of 10,000 for sell, takes 30% cut and distributes rest of the proceeds. There are tons of folks who have most of their posts public on FB would be willing to do this. There are companies who wants to model users, train/test algorithms would be willing to pay for it.

How will it be verified if profile is real or fake?

I think you could easily train machine learning algorithm to do that.

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

#140

Absolutely a serious question here: what is the big deal with companies e.g. Facebook and Google using your data for profit? These companies provide services that you , a user of their platforms, want. Providing those services is not free, and yet the prevailing sentiment across the internet seems to be, "Wow, I can't believe FB was using my data to sell me ads!"

I'm a young adult. I've been on the internet for most of my life and all of my adult life. When the GDPR started to be a hot topic, I decided to check what Facebook knows about me.

There are lots of things in there I didn't want known and remembered. Many embarrassing, cringy, inaccurate, unfortunately accurate, depressing, stupid things. Past interests, teenage angst, bullying, fedora edgelord material, unflattering photos, mean things I've said and had said to me, controversial political opinions, things I've come to disagree with, relationships and so on.

There exist vast public, semi-public, and buyable records of my life full of things I'd rather not even remember myself, let alone have corporations remember for me and highest bidders.

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