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I put all my personal data on eBay

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Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

#91
That reminds me of a (satirical) personal data exchange website [1] which criticized a lot of personal data exposure incidents in Korea. Most amusingly, the website, which had absolutely no actual personal data or functions (and clearly indicated it's a joke in the first click), was blocked by the South Korean government.

[1] http://trademyinfo.libsora.so/ (in Korean)

[2] https://libsora.so/posts/trade-my-info-warning-or-kr/ (in Korean)

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

#92
post #63

Absolutely a serious question here: what is the big deal with companies e.g. Facebook and Google using your data for profit? These companies provide services that you , a user of their platforms, want. Providing those services is not free, and yet the prevailing sentiment across the internet seems to be, "Wow, I can't believe FB was using my data to sell me ads!"

They are "hoarding" the data, IE keeping it away from their competition. If the data was free, it could be used for things like large scale medical studies, instead of blasting my eyeballs with auto-play videos about the product I just finished buying on amazon. How many work hours combined daily on planet earth are lost waiting 5 seconds for the video to play, before continuing to read information required for your…

GDPR is pushing in the opposite direction though.

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

#93
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I found it kind of silly but worth thinking about This was my reaction to 95% of the book. Until Radical Markets, I'd never read a nonfiction book that I found so absurd and detached from reality and yet provoked so much useful thought. I worry that others may not realize how detached it is, and that the net effect may not be positive, but we'll see.

> A nonfiction book that I found so absurd and detached from reality and yet provoked so much useful thought. This is a really interesting category. Makes me think about other books I've read that are a bit like that. I'd probably put Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance in there. Maybe Understanding Media by Marshall McLuhan as well.

Gregory Clark candidly prefaces his "Farewell to Alms" with the admission that the arguments he presents in the book will most likely be proven "oversimplified, or merely false" but excuses his fallibility quoting Darwin:

"false views, if supported by some evidence, do little harm, for every one takes a salutary pleasure in proving their falseness: and when this is done, one path towards error is closed and the road to truth is often at the same time opened.”

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

#94

Context: this fellow (Oli Frost) is something of a social media satirist, having previously built LifeFaker ( http://lifefaker.com/ , a place to buy your way to Instagram fame), and Flopstarter ( http://flopstarter.com/ , a Kickstarter clone for terrible ideas). I found the latest idea pretty funny - actually trying to monetize your data instead of letting companies do it for you is kind of a cute turnabout. In any c…

There are a couple companies that are working in that space: https://datacoup.com/ https://datawallet.com/#protect A more detailed reddit thread about them: https://www.reddit.com/r/beermoney/comments/8btjah/16_passiv...

I am quite interested in the BAT (Basic Attention Token) project. Using the Brave browser you can either block ads normally or choose to view Brave ads, and the difference with Brave ads is that the viewer gets paid--- in tokens, that is. They can then use the accumulated BAT tokens to send micropayments to platforms and content that they like or peruse frequently. Pretty cool incentive system. And Brave is a really nice browser, at least for mobile.

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

#95

Context: this fellow (Oli Frost) is something of a social media satirist, having previously built LifeFaker ( http://lifefaker.com/ , a place to buy your way to Instagram fame), and Flopstarter ( http://flopstarter.com/ , a Kickstarter clone for terrible ideas). I found the latest idea pretty funny - actually trying to monetize your data instead of letting companies do it for you is kind of a cute turnabout. In any c…

Jana is doing this by building a browser (mCent) that shows people ads in exchange for tokens that they can use to buy mobile data. It's becoming really popular in India. http://www.mcentbrowser.com/

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

#96

Context: this fellow (Oli Frost) is something of a social media satirist, having previously built LifeFaker ( http://lifefaker.com/ , a place to buy your way to Instagram fame), and Flopstarter ( http://flopstarter.com/ , a Kickstarter clone for terrible ideas). I found the latest idea pretty funny - actually trying to monetize your data instead of letting companies do it for you is kind of a cute turnabout. In any c…

This concept is being talked about a lot in crypto area. Bringing data back into the control of the user and providing ways for them to monetize it.

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

#97

Context: this fellow (Oli Frost) is something of a social media satirist, having previously built LifeFaker ( http://lifefaker.com/ , a place to buy your way to Instagram fame), and Flopstarter ( http://flopstarter.com/ , a Kickstarter clone for terrible ideas). I found the latest idea pretty funny - actually trying to monetize your data instead of letting companies do it for you is kind of a cute turnabout. In any c…

This is not a satire. I can easily see a service where people can simple upload their FB data and the service bundles it up in to groups of 10,000 for sell, takes 30% cut and distributes rest of the proceeds. There are tons of folks who have most of their posts public on FB would be willing to do this. There are companies who wants to model users, train/test algorithms would be willing to pay for it.

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With a current bid of £113.00, it's working fine.

The first time is always a special case. This reminds me of "the million dollar homepage". It worked once. It will never work again.

I think it would still work in the case of celebrities. For most of us, I guess only a few scammers / enemies / relatives would be interested in the data.

Re: I put all my personal data on eBay

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post #58

Absolutely a serious question here: what is the big deal with companies e.g. Facebook and Google using your data for profit? These companies provide services that you , a user of their platforms, want. Providing those services is not free, and yet the prevailing sentiment across the internet seems to be, "Wow, I can't believe FB was using my data to sell me ads!"

You are assuming that I am using Facebook. I am not. They have a shadow profile on me anyway, together with my cellphone number and lots of private information, because my friends uploaded it to get access to Facebook Messenger & WhatsApp.

Not just your friends. I recently found out that two companies I've bought something from shared my data with facebook.
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