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Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ‘business conflicts’

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Post by severine »

itake wrote: post #45
throwahey wrote: post #34

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Start by disabling javascript, then only whitelisting websites when necessary. Also consider whether certain content is even worth vieweing when confronted with an "enable JS" banner. Your web experience is now 1000% better.

I use uMatrix to block loading content from unwanted domains, but I am considering disabling it. ~30% of websites I visit, I spend 30s adjusting the whitelist to get the page to load properly. I would think this would make my browsing experience even more cumbersome. Is there no alternative?

I'm of the opinion that "mastering" uMatrix pays off heaps. Do you use the Scope Selector, like in this wiki example?

https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix/wiki/Scope-selector

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Post by jrs95 »

Maarten88 wrote: post #110
criley2 wrote: post #88

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This makes no sense. Tracking for advertising is the business model of free content. That's how they pay for the "free" content you wish to consume without paying. Do Europeans really think GDPR is a new way to steal internet content without having to pay? It seems like a hard block on all Europeans visiting websites like this would be better (and totally legal, these are private servers with a terms of use, accessin…

> Tracking for advertising is the business model of free content. Well, too bad, that business model has just become illegal in EU. Publishers will have to make do with old style banners or ads. They can still target ads using the content of the page, assuming readers of the article will be interested in the subject. ... or get consent in a compliant way. Success with that!

But according to what some are saying they are apparently required to provide their content to everyone regardless of whether or not they consent? That’s why I have a problem with. They should be able to say that you must consent in order to use the site.

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Post by fron »

jrs95 wrote: post #132
beavis2 wrote: post #109

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Despite the two companies collaborating on an app based on HTML5, Microsoft's app is still breaking YouTube's terms of use. "Microsoft has not made the browser upgrades necessary to enable a fully-featured YouTube experience, and has instead re-released a YouTube app that violates our Terms of Service - It has been disabled. We value our broad developer community and therefore ask everyone to adhere to the same guide…

Google intentionally ignores issues Edge/IE users have with their products because they want them to switch to Chrome. This isn’t an issue of Microsoft making “browser upgrades”, it’s an issue of Google developing to and supporting Chrome and ignoring the rest of the web.

I don't blame anyone if they don't want to support Edge/IE. Microsoft's browsers are horrible to develop for. Personally I'd be much happier if more of my users would switch to Chrome.

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Post by adamjc »

criley2 wrote: post #128
adamjc wrote: post #106

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> Then give me your credit card and subscribe, or there's the door. I don't understand this type of thinking from some of the posters here on HN, as if GDPR is right now personally affecting you in a negative way. It's a very aggressive way of writing and I've seen a few posters comment in this way. If you want an example of a company that does non-personalised advertising and is successful: DuckDuckGo.

How do you know I am not personally affected by freeloaders who wish to steal content from me and use laws as justification for their entitlement to free no-strings access to my work? That's very presumptuous.

a) If you were, you would have mentioned it by now. Your name appears all over this thread, it's incredible how much GDPR has aggravated you.

b) If you are running a website and don't wish us 'thieving Europeans', then don't allows traffic from Europe.

This is the perplexing thing about your seemingly apoplectic rage on this topic. There are options available for these companies who still want to track people individually.

Calm down.

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Post by vetinari »

Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #104
dnomad wrote: post #55

People who go on and on about the Google and Amazon "monopolies" -- which only benefit consumers with low prices and expansive services -- this is what actual monopolistic behavior looks like. Apple controls access to a significant share of the mobile application industry and it directly abuses that market power to harm customers by reducing competition and artificially raising prices. Apple is being sued in both US…

> actual monopolistic behavior > a significant share If it's only "a significant share" it's by definition not a monopoly.

Actually, it could be a monopoly, see also Herfindahl-Hirschman index and other measures of market concentration.

Re: Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ‘business conflicts’

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Post by jrs95 »

snarfy wrote: post #129

I can already hear the Apple apologists defending them, something about Valve not adhering to the highest standards and best quality, some BS like that.

Unfortunately Apple has to enforce the technicalities around their rules for apps or they legally won’t be able to enforce them at all. I wouldn’t be surprised if a revised version of the app ends up making it to the store.

Re: Apple rejects Valve’s Steam Link game streaming app over ‘business conflicts’

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Post by Chathamization »

dnomad wrote: post #55

People who go on and on about the Google and Amazon "monopolies" -- which only benefit consumers with low prices and expansive services -- this is what actual monopolistic behavior looks like. Apple controls access to a significant share of the mobile application industry and it directly abuses that market power to harm customers by reducing competition and artificially raising prices. Apple is being sued in both US…

> People who go on and on about the Google and Amazon "monopolies" -- which only benefit consumers with low prices and expansive services

That's not really true, things like the abundance of counterfeit goods on Amazon (the result of Amazon's policies and its position) are really bad for consumers.

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Post by signal11 »

matwood wrote: post #117
jakubp wrote: post #80

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Is there Amazon Kindle app for iOS? If there is, isn't it the exact same type of app as Steam Link? Access your content library, buy more content. If Apple lets Amazon do this (presumably because Amazon is too big to ignore) and won't let Steam do it (because Steam isn't big enough), then this feels more like a cartel than monopoly.

There is, but the way the Apple app store rules work is that if you are purchasing something for use in the current app, it must go through the IAP API and give Apple their cut. Purchases for things outside the app (like physical items) are fine. The way this works with Amazon, is in the Amazon store app a user can buy ebooks/audiobooks (along with anything else Amazon sells), and then those books are sent to the Kin…

If anyone at Apple is reading this, this creates ridiculously bad UX for iOS users.

Search for a book on Google. Click on an Amazon Kindle Search result. The Amazon iOS App launches and tries to find the book, realizes it's a Kindle result, launches Safari to show the result.

So the was trasitioned from Safari -> Amazon -> Safari pretty much because of petty politics from Apple. And all for what? A happy Kindle user isn't going to suddenly switch over to iBooks and you've just made life much worse for him.

The pettiness in the mobile platform wars is unbelievable.

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