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In all likelihood, the answer from most companies would be "sorry we don't yet have the ability to provide that data, it's on the roadmap, you'll have to wait".
This is ridiculous, its not like they didn't have notice.
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> will be solidly violating the GDPR come tomorrow how do you know that? i mean technically he says they re violating it today, just like we all did the past 2 years because it wasnt enforceable. what changes with their ban tomorrow?
That they are still violating it tomorrow and they are giving their users an excellent excuse to contact the regulators because they cut off communications. This is about as dumb as it comes.
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I feel like you’re making a bigger deal out of this than necessary, unless you’re doing some shady stuff with our data. From what I can tell from various legal advice that I’ve read, as long as you’re working on implementing the changes, and have been following security best practices, nothing really changes on May 25th, and you’ll be able to take your time to become fully compliant, as long as you can demonstrate th…
I feel like you’re making a bigger deal out of this than necessary, unless you’re doing some shady stuff with our data. Seeing this completely false sentiment repeated over and over again is getting exhausting. Only a tiny fraction of the companies avoiding EU traffic due to GDPR have any intention of “doing shady stuff with your data” . GDPR is highly complex, and as of tomorrow, allowing EU traffic invites massive…
This sentiment and the hilariously large fines (regardless of company size, even) on relatively-ill-defined requirements make the whole GDPR process feel like it was designed to bully businesses into compliance.
Some pieces of GDPR are definitely for the benefit of the end-user (at the expense of companies, who happen to be providing those users other benefits). It all feels really heavy-handed, though.
Not to mention a little reminiscent of the problems that occur with other "bans" (which, this effectively is). When you put heavy legal restrictions on doing X (where, in this case, X is storing and processing data that you assumedly use to provide a service for users), you're effectively hurting the legitimate businesses most (_especially_ small ones) while the real "bad guys" that are actually doing bad things with our data are going to continue ignoring the law. There might be some value in-between, but I doubt there's much.
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This is ridiculous, its not like they didn't have notice.
But that's the reality. At least they're working on it and the fact that a lot of companies massively overreact means they at least take data protection serious now.
Obviously, IANAL, but my company talked to a few over the past week. This move is, in my opinion, a bad read on the odds and European culture. First, culture. The goal (at least in France, but that's probably the same in other countries) is to get you in compliance, NOT to fine you. What this means is that before you get lawsuit and fines, someone will talk to you and work with you to see how you can get compliant. S…
As far as I understand the grace period was the last two years. Tomorrow is the big day. But whether or not that it is true, I believe that if Europeans have used Instapaper and they now temporarily shut off access they still are not compliant and in violation of the law. Because they did serve Europeans, so they have their data.
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"Only a tiny fraction of the companies avoiding EU traffic due to GDPR have any intention of “doing shady stuff with your data”." Says who? If they weren't doing shady stuff, they wouldn't be pulling out of the EU. The excuses of being complex are just that, excuses.
Says who? Says anyone with common sense. What percentage of sites do you think employ data scientists or would even know where to go to sell your data? Most sites do nothing more than throw GA on their website, and maybe some Adsense. You people decided to paint that as something evil. That’s your decision to make, but just understand that most of the rest of the world wants no part of $20M potential fines and will s…
I'm still struggling with the fact that the EU can compel me to add what will be a funnel shattering dialog to my onboarding. I've shelved a bunch of side projects that I was excited to work on because I have no interest in dealing with any of this ambiguous law. Implementing it would most likely cause a large percentage of users to uninstall my app, because who wants to be greeted with a scary sounding dialog as the…
If you were going to make apps that didn't safeguard the users data, and this law deterred you from doing so, then the law is working as intended.
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That they are still violating it tomorrow and they are giving their users an excellent excuse to contact the regulators because they cut off communications. This is about as dumb as it comes.
I was under the impression that of you don't do business with EU users, you are not subject to the rules. This seems like the only reasonable way to not do business with EU customers. Other thoughts aside, if they wanted to stop doing business in the EU, how should they?
Erase everything.
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If they were smart about how transparent a business needed to be, I don't think it would be toothless at all. It would have given users more information about what is happening behind the scenes and allowed them to make their own decisions. > So that users can opt-out of having unnecessary data collected. You should only be collecting the data needed to run the service. If your business collapses when users opt-out,…
I don't agree, but at least I understand where you're coming from. Here is the stasis of our dispute: > I would argue most of these things make the world a better place not a worse place. And that people should be able to choose how they want to pay for those services. I'm not convinced any of the apps we pay for in data really improve our lives. The price we pay in control over our identity and our information usual…