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The existence of the universe itself
The only thing that proves is that the universe exists. Claiming that someone created it is only moving the question, because who then made the creator?
Is it so hard to believe that there's a creator maybe?
What is hard is proving that what you believe is true.
I find it fascinating that we have not witnessed self reproduction and evolution in a simulated world as of now. Unless we manually put it in of course. Any guesses when this will happen? Life springing up in a 2D-Automata or something like that? What size will it be? How many cells does the smallest self reproducing 2D-Automata need?
http://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=399&start=0
But in HighLife there is a trivial replicator:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replicator_(cellular_automat...
Of course for life you need not just replication but mutation and antifraility
Is it so hard to believe that there's a creator maybe?
Who/what created the creator then? And please don't say "the creator has always been there", because the same could be said about a universe to make a creator redundant...
Is it so hard to believe that there's a creator maybe?
Believing is not hard no, anyone can believe whatever they want. What is hard is proving that what you believe is true.
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Believing is not hard no, anyone can believe whatever they want. What is hard is proving that what you believe is true.
Or for the other side to prove that you are wrong. Let's be honest here, none of us can "proof" the existence or non existence of a creator but we have been endowed with intelligence and humility to hopefully come to the right conclusion.
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Believing is not hard no, anyone can believe whatever they want. What is hard is proving that what you believe is true.
Or for the other side to prove that you are wrong. Let's be honest here, none of us can "proof" the existence or non existence of a creator but we have been endowed with intelligence and humility to hopefully come to the right conclusion.
Indeed, let's be honest, we cannot prove anything.
> but we have been endowed with intelligence and humility to hopefully come to the right conclusion.
So then, the right conclusion would simply be that we don't know, right? You are free to have some preference, i.e, you prefer that a creators exists, and that's fine, but as you said earlier, let's be honest we cannot prove it.
So with the humility that was endowed to us, let's just acknowledge what we don't know. And that's why people are trying to understand :)
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The only thing that proves is that the universe exists. Claiming that someone created it is only moving the question, because who then made the creator?
This is a very famous point raised by theologians many centuries ago. Circular reasoning can hardly count as valid. What if the creator always existed? And besides no major religion deals with this point so I wouldn't have an answer.
Is it so hard to believe that there's a creator maybe?
Who/what created the creator then? And please don't say "the creator has always been there", because the same could be said about a universe to make a creator redundant...