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If you read that 5 times over, maybe it's worth including more of the context of the phrase: > Mr. Roth was the last of the great white males: the triumvirate of writers — Saul Bellow and John Updike were the others — who towered over American letters in the second half of the 20th century. Seems that "great white males" refers to a specific trio of writers -- all white men -- who were seen as the giants of American…
That he used the term "great white males" when he should have used "Great Male Narcissists". Would a high school newspaper even make a mistake such as this? It's either sloppy, malicious, or both.
Philip Roth has died
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That he used the term "great white males" when he should have used "Great Male Narcissists". Would a high school newspaper even make a mistake such as this? It's either sloppy, malicious, or both.
Sorry, I'm not following. Is "Great Male Narcissists" a popular pronoun in this context?
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No, it is my reaction to the commenter's reaction to this article about Philip Roth's death.
Please don't post ideological rants, or other unsubstantive comments, to HN.
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It is of no interest to you how some tyrants come to be reviled while others are lionized?
Not really. The ones doing the lionizing are obviously deceived or fearful for their lives and loved ones.
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That he used the term "great white males" when he should have used "Great Male Narcissists". Would a high school newspaper even make a mistake such as this? It's either sloppy, malicious, or both.
If someone referred to a "great black male" writer would you be equally offended? Or do you object to mention of his race? His sex? These details help paint a picture. They are not mentioned to offend.
https://www.dfwsociety.org/2017/12/02/call-for-papers-great-...
He specifically substituted 'narcissist' with 'white male' as if he's using it as a synonym.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
If someone referred to a "great black male" writer would you be equally offended? Or do you object to mention of his race? His sex? These details help paint a picture. They are not mentioned to offend.
If you read the article, he is defining this group of 'great white males' to be three writers who the literary world actually refer to as 'The Great Narcissists'. https://www.dfwsociety.org/2017/12/02/call-for-papers-great-... He specifically substituted 'narcissist' with 'white male' as if he's using it as a synonym.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/donotmigrate/3562536/Joh...
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2017/08/28/michiko-k...
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry, I'm not following. Is "Great Male Narcissists" a popular pronoun in this context?
https://www.dfwsociety.org/2017/12/02/call-for-papers-great-...
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#78David Foster Wallace wrote a review of an Updike book in 1998 that also shed some light on Roth: http://observer.com/1997/10/john-updike-champion-literary-ph...
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#79I just learnt about him and ordered my first book of his last night. Odd.
>I just learnt about him and ordered my first book of his last night. Odd. No odder than any of the billions of cases of people who hadn't just learned about him and ordered their first book of his last night, though. Edit: this is the same fallacy behind a good portion of claims of "miracles" and "supernatural" phenomena, and other apparent coincidences. If no one bought his book on the night before he died, that wo…