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Deadly Chinese Fentanyl Is Creating a New Era of Drug Kingpins

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When drug kingpins + dealers kill off their customers, instead of addicting them to make as much money possible, then it feels like something more dark and ainister is at hand.

Given the history in the USA (i.e., black communities) perhaps American officials are just culling the herd?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The attack that never happened and/or has never been proven? From the line you yourself posted: "Webb's series led to three federal investigations, none of which found evidence of any conspiracy by the CIA or its employees to bring drugs into the United States."

You're right, it may not have been proven but based on the amount of coverage and writing on it, there must be some truth behind it. Do you really think these people decided to make it up? And regardless of whether they smuggled the drugs, they knowingly supported the people doing it. Also, I haven't downvoted you and I'm quite confused by the votes on my original comment. Went straight into the negatives and now it'…

>based on the amount of coverage and writing on it, there must be some truth behind it

See also: U.F.O.'s, Kennedy Assassination, Illuminati, etc...

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Both, really. Americans were instrumental in pushing cheap, lower quality Turkish opium. Many of the great old East Coast fortunes were built on opium smuggling.

Many of the great old East Coast fortunes were built on opium smuggling. Very interesting indeed. Could you please list a few or point to a link that does?

The Cabot family [1], one of the big Boston Brahmin families made their bones shipping slaves and opium. If the name is familiar, Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. was one of their most prominent sons.

[1] https://www.britannica.com/topic/Cabot-family [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Cabot_Lodge_Jr.

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The attack that never happened and/or has never been proven? From the line you yourself posted: "Webb's series led to three federal investigations, none of which found evidence of any conspiracy by the CIA or its employees to bring drugs into the United States."

You're right, it may not have been proven but based on the amount of coverage and writing on it, there must be some truth behind it. Do you really think these people decided to make it up? And regardless of whether they smuggled the drugs, they knowingly supported the people doing it. Also, I haven't downvoted you and I'm quite confused by the votes on my original comment. Went straight into the negatives and now it'…

> You're right, it may not have been proven but based on the amount of coverage and writing on it, there must be some truth behind it.

Seems like a bad way to determine the truth. But either way, even if the crack epidemic was simply a result of the material conditions in the communities it effected, the government is culpable, though perhaps in a somewhat more limited way

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When drug kingpins + dealers kill off their customers, instead of addicting them to make as much money possible, then it feels like something more dark and ainister is at hand. Given the history in the USA (i.e., black communities) perhaps American officials are just culling the herd?

That was the conspiracy with crack cocaine, most of these fentanyl victims appear to be Caucasian. There are record over dose numbers in the wealthy suburbs near where I live, Montgomery County

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As an American, the irony of comeuppance isn't lost on me, given that we did have some involvement against them in the Opium Wars.

I'm not sure why people think this is new. Far from it.

Even back in the 1960's there was a scene in a James Bond film where some gangster was complaining that competition from Latin America was driving the prices down on his trade in Chinese drugs.

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When drug kingpins + dealers kill off their customers, instead of addicting them to make as much money possible, then it feels like something more dark and ainister is at hand. Given the history in the USA (i.e., black communities) perhaps American officials are just culling the herd?

Even a proper scale that's all of a sudden miscalibrated could cause an overdose.

-don't blame on malice what can be blamed on folly

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In Europe there are a lot of these so-called "research chemicals". They are basically illegal drugs but chemically they are different enough that they aren't illegal. I think the most well-known example is 1P-LSD.

I would say that, if you're speaking of the whole category of "research chemicals"—rather than just the psychotropic ones—it's actually easier to get them in North America than in Europe. Many of the actual pharma research companies creating this stuff are in the US, so there's no customs between you and an order of random-drug-sample #91245096. And even when there is, both the US and Canada are basically allow-then-…

I didn't actually know that.

I randomly browsed Reddit and wandered onto the 1P-LSD thread and saw that most of the stores mentioned were in Germany, Netherlands, Spain so I just assumed that it was more of a Europe thing.

EDIT: Any ideas why I get "You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks."?

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When drug kingpins + dealers kill off their customers, instead of addicting them to make as much money possible, then it feels like something more dark and ainister is at hand. Given the history in the USA (i.e., black communities) perhaps American officials are just culling the herd?

There doesn't need to be anything sinister about it. Fentanyl is cheap and potent. You can take cheap, low quality heroin, mix it with a little fentanyl and sell it for more profit as high quality heroin.

However, if it's not mixed perfectly, you end up with "hotspots" of fentanyl. If someone ends up with a hotspot they can easily overdose. The occasion overdose also attracts more users because it gives the impression of potent, high quality heroin.

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In Europe there are a lot of these so-called "research chemicals". They are basically illegal drugs but chemically they are different enough that they aren't illegal. I think the most well-known example is 1P-LSD.

1. Fent is not an RC, it is used in medicine 2. It's strongly regulated

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