Can Things Be Both Popular and Silenced?

Post by ForRealsies » Wed, May 23, 2018, 11:52 AM UTC

sheepmullet wrote: post #27

croon wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Our culture as produced in books/film/tv/music is dominated by left leaning beliefs. This could either be a conspiracy comprising of every author of every medium... OR It's because stories need sympathetic characters, and current Republican values aren't sympathetic. I'm not trying to be divisive or flippant, though I'm sure this will be the effect. But success in media is driven by believable sympathetic character…

> It's because stories need sympathetic characters, and current Republican values aren't sympathetic. What makes you think that?

Post by Density » Wed, May 23, 2018, 11:54 AM UTC

itsmenotyou wrote: post #18

thriway wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, I do feel like my ideas/community are the underdog and I'm not even all that rightwing (I'm pro stuff like basic income, but also against minimum wage). The thing about underdog is this. Our culture as produced in books/film/tv/music is dominated by left leaning beliefs. If your conservate the media that naturally surrounds you does not reflect or celebrate your values. Though I'm not saying they don't exist.…

"Basically if there is an internet community that's not expressily rightwing, it's community will be leftwing, so leftwing people don't need a space for themselves" I'd argue the exact opposite. Most of the big internet forums, reddit, 4chan, gaming forums are all right leaning to greater or lesser degrees, and most of the smaller forums I've come across in many many years of wasted time on the internet follow this p…

Post by Density » Wed, May 23, 2018, 11:59 AM UTC

dnomad wrote: post #29

sheepmullet wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> America invades Iraq, slaughters a million people No they didn't. They were incredibly naive and thought that the Iraqis would jump for joy and become just like America when Saddam was taken out. Instead they decided to kill each other. > In the author's mind all of the fundamental, "Orthodox" institutions are controlled by liberals who control the "airwaves and pulpits and universities." Are you suggesting the med…

> No they didn't. Yes, it's all the Iraqis fault. And I'm sure you sincerely believe that despite it being utterly insane. > Are you suggesting the media, hollywood, and universities aren't left-leaning? Ironically, you've aptly demonstrated the entire point. If you asked this question to most people outside of America (you know, the other 7.3 billion people on the planet) I think many would probably agree that no, A…

Post by cristianpascu » Wed, May 23, 2018, 12:02 PM UTC

Nokinside wrote: post #23

As someone who reads and listen these people who are called "the intellectual dark web" I would not call them a group of intellectuals. Haidt and Pinker being exceptions. I like to listen Sam Harris and have read a little Mr. Peterson and even listen Joe Rogan who gets into the list somehow. If I criticize these guys it does not mean that I think their net contribution is net negative. Sam Harris is smart and nice to…

Post by michaelt » Wed, May 23, 2018, 12:05 PM UTC

Nokinside wrote: post #23

As someone who reads and listen these people who are called "the intellectual dark web" I would not call them a group of intellectuals. Haidt and Pinker being exceptions. I like to listen Sam Harris and have read a little Mr. Peterson and even listen Joe Rogan who gets into the list somehow. If I criticize these guys it does not mean that I think their net contribution is net negative. Sam Harris is smart and nice to…