Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS • Hacker News Board

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by unicornporn » Wed, May 23, 2018, 11:36 AM UTC

StavrosK wrote: post #236

thawkins wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Way way too complicated, needs a setup and configured postgres install, why use an RDBMS when it could have embedded sqlight and avoided all that sysadmin stuff

Agreed, this seems like a perfect fit for SQLite. It's not like you need massive concurrency, and you would have avoided all this administrative burden. Too bad, that's literally the only reason I chose not to try it. FreshRSS seems very nice too, but is also a hassle to deploy (what with apache/nginx and a bunch of requirements).

> […] you would have avoided all this administrative burden.

This is the big reason I chose FreshRSS. PHP and SQLite works great on cheap/shared hosting and is portable.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by unicornporn » Wed, May 23, 2018, 11:38 AM UTC

zahreeley wrote: post #173

RSS in JSON format? Or may be yaml

Please, no. RSS works pretty well as is. Few users would care about the data format. https://xkcd.com/927/

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by unicornporn » Wed, May 23, 2018, 11:39 AM UTC

jaequery wrote: post #153

if someone comes up with RSS in a pure JSON format, I'd think we may see a revival.

RSS works pretty well as is. Few users would care the data format. https://xkcd.com/927/

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by mtreis86 » Wed, May 23, 2018, 11:41 AM UTC

oblio wrote: post #207

jghjg wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ehm, I don't think a console rss reader isn't complicated for the common non tech user

I'd expand on this: do you know any non-tech user that uses any console application: * knowingly * not having been introduced to it by a techie * not being forced to use it by their workplace ? I don't know any...

And how many tech people also avoid console applications.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by unicornporn » Wed, May 23, 2018, 11:47 AM UTC

advanced__pizza wrote: post #205

plug: http://flatreader.com/ Idea is to be super simple. Unlimited feeds in beta. Will post the github if anyone is interested in helping out. Sinatra / Ruby, Postgres.

> Unlimited feeds in beta.

That isn't a great selling point to me. That means I might become locked into a service with bad terms.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by hypocrazybr » Wed, May 23, 2018, 12:22 PM UTC

h43z wrote: post #106

For websites I want to follow that don't provide an RSS feed I wrote a 30 line python script which runs in daily cronjob and creates me an an XML feed that I can import locally in my reader (newsboat). Easy and it works great.

do you have this python script in some kind of github/bitbucket repo? would you mind to share it? Newsboat is awesome!

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by josefresco » Wed, May 23, 2018, 1:01 PM UTC

I recently unfollowed most "media" on my Twitter, and transitioned those sources to RSS / Feedly app on iOS. Feedly works good enough, and my Twitter feed is now much quieter, and I feel good about spending less time on Twitter (for various reasons).

I have found that finding an RSS feed for a website/brand can sometimes be difficult. Feedly does a good job making this easy, but sometimes I need to resort to Google, to find the proper feed.

I also find it rewarding to follow (on Twitter) journalists, instead of the paper/website/org they work for. You get more personal tweets, story follow ups, and can engage them in conversation, unlike most media feeds which are managed by staff uninterested in engaging.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by josefresco » Wed, May 23, 2018, 1:03 PM UTC

lylo wrote: post #185

For years (since the demise of Google Reader) I’ve been using feedly.com (which is free) as the source for my RSS feeds but I never actually use the web client. I use native clients that integrate with Feedly. For iOS I use Reeder ( https://reederapp.com ) but for Mac (which Reeder also supports) I use the excellent ReadKit ( https://readkitapp.com/ ). Most blogs still appear to support RSS but you do get the odd one…

Am I missing something? Feedly has an iOS app - is it new?

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by josefresco » Wed, May 23, 2018, 1:05 PM UTC

keithnz wrote: post #51

I'm still angry (ish) at google for killing google reader, it met my RSS needs really nicely. I use feedly now. Which is pretty good. For me having it has a web site is most useful, rather than a device oriented thing that manages feeds.

I use the Feedly iOS app - never used or even seen the website. What I like about the app, is the "all done!" message at the end of your daily feeds. It's a nice reminder/poke to get off the phone and get on with life.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by josefresco » Wed, May 23, 2018, 1:09 PM UTC

trophycase wrote: post #45

burtonator wrote: post #32

It won't ever come back because there's no monetary incentive for people to share content. Just the opposite in fact.

I've never used an RSS reader so correct me if I'm wrong, but RSS can basically allow you to read the content without advertising? Sharing is fine, but I think they would prefer sharing in a way that can make money.

Most feeds only contain "excerpts" - which require you to visit the website to read the entire article. Thankfully, "reader mode" exists. Ads are also entirely possible, but not commonplace.