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Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by rado »

guessmyname wrote: post #158
unicornporn wrote: post #70

I don't understand why you would ever want this to be a desktop app. Try FreshRSS[1], it's awesome. It works well on shared hosting and it runs on SQLite. TTRSS only gave me trouble. Threw all kinds of strange errors at unexpected times. I don't know how many times it died on me after an upgrade. I eventually gave up and found FreshRSS. Been running (and updating) it over a year, without a single problem. One of the…

Last week I discovered Cappuccino [1] (macOS and iOS app) . * Interface is native, * Free, with some (paid) premium options, * 3 visualization options (preview, web, browser), * Import and export your OPML configuration, * Native desktop notifications, * Premium daily email summaries, * Premium push notifications. It was also recently released on May 7, 2018. [1] http://cappuccinoapp.com

Awesome, just what I needed. Thanks!

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by z3t4 »

jghjg wrote: post #202
begriffs wrote: post #188

Why has this become so complicated? I use Newsboat https://newsboat.org/ to read RSS, and follow about 100 very interesting authors that way. I just put the RSS urls into a text file and the self-contained 1.7mb program does the rest. Somehow it gets by without using a combination of Electron, Mongo, Algolia, Redis, machine learning (!), and Sendgrid. Maybe the comparison with a text-based RSS reader isn't fair and W…

ehm, I don't think a console rss reader isn't complicated for the common non tech user

What's even more simple is to punch the URL in ASCII numbers to the cards, and put it in the "RSS" deck, then on every Monday morning press play on the program tape, that loads the URL's from the card deck and after a few hours prints all new articles on the mainframe's printer.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by calanya »

begriffs wrote: post #188

Why has this become so complicated? I use Newsboat https://newsboat.org/ to read RSS, and follow about 100 very interesting authors that way. I just put the RSS urls into a text file and the self-contained 1.7mb program does the rest. Somehow it gets by without using a combination of Electron, Mongo, Algolia, Redis, machine learning (!), and Sendgrid. Maybe the comparison with a text-based RSS reader isn't fair and W…

How does Newsboat support non-Latin scripts? Seems like a pretty basic requirement.

E.g., this blog is in Hebrew, you can see the expected text layout on its website: https://workaround.blog/

I wonder if Newsboat can replicate that layout. Here is the RSS feed:

https://workaround.blog/feed/

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by catach »

trophycase wrote: post #45
burtonator wrote: post #32

It won't ever come back because there's no monetary incentive for people to share content. Just the opposite in fact.

I've never used an RSS reader so correct me if I'm wrong, but RSS can basically allow you to read the content without advertising? Sharing is fine, but I think they would prefer sharing in a way that can make money.

Feeds can contain ads, as Daring Fireball's does [0]. Granted, advertisers don't get analytics that way so it's certainly less appealing.

[0] https://daringfireball.net/feeds/main

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by sametmax »

WorldMaker wrote: post #4
sametmax wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I kinda feel like over engineering on RSS is going against the point. It's a simple tech, for a simple usage.

…for a simpler time?

It's like tring to make very fancy coins. Go notes. Use eletronic money. But if you use coins, you usually do it because it's simple.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by oelmekki »

I've been using rss again for a few months, and it's been really nice. It's like twitter without the noise.

The "wow" moment for me was when I discovered google alerts allows to get alerts as a rss feed (individually for each alert). So this means content discovery through RSS is now possible (the main reason why I started to replace RSS with twitter). Alerts have two modes, one "main articles only" where google applies some blackbox magic to limit the amount of items talking about the same thing, and "all articles".

I'm seriously thinking about using this to build my own privacy oriented clone of google feed. I could have a browser extension performing keyword extraction from my web history to detect my interests, then have google alerts set up on those keywords and a local app chewing all similar content from items through textrank to produce a "news", with a list of sources, maybe sorted through alexa rank. Sounds like quite a job, but worth it.

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by jochung »

dismal2 wrote: post #11

Why is this a downloadable app instead of a web app? It's built entirely using web technology. I think RSS belongs in my browser, so I can easily access it from whatever computer I might be using.

Because not everyone wants to outsource their software needs to computers they don't control?

Re: Winds 2.0: It’s Time to Revive RSS

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Post by unicornporn »

bjt wrote: post #139
unicornporn wrote: post #70

I don't understand why you would ever want this to be a desktop app. Try FreshRSS[1], it's awesome. It works well on shared hosting and it runs on SQLite. TTRSS only gave me trouble. Threw all kinds of strange errors at unexpected times. I don't know how many times it died on me after an upgrade. I eventually gave up and found FreshRSS. Been running (and updating) it over a year, without a single problem. One of the…

> I don't understand why you would ever want this to be a desktop app. Perhaps because the vast majority of people in the world have no interest in figuring out web hosting so they can read some news articles. That doesn't seem like a viable way to "bring back RSS".

It seems likely that the average user (that has no interest in figuring out web hosting) will still want to use software/service that works across devices (just like everything else works these days). For those users there's https://newsblur.com/ and similar services.
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