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In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Re: In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Post by madeofpalk »

znpy wrote: post #20

This is one of the reasons why you should just not buy Apple-branded stuff: such things are designed to be remotely-lockable. With an Android-based device this couldn't happen. Provided that you have a backup of your data, you could just reflash the device, restore your backup and start using the device again. Just don't buy Apple stuff. Between people having assistance denied (example: Linus Sebastian 5 k$ Mac Pro),…

> Between people having assistance denied (example: Linus Sebastian 5 k$ Mac Pro),

Just a note, he wasn't 'denied assistance', Apple told them the computer was damaged beyond repair. Just like if you get your car into a serious crash it'll be written off, that's what Apple declared to his iMac Pro because he had physically damaged it so much.

Re: In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Post by TekMol »

znpy wrote: post #29
TekMol wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it surprising that Linux distributions still don't support iOS devices. Considering how many of these devices are out there. What is the main reason? That it is hard to root them?

> What is the main reason? That it is hard to root them? Imho it's just not worth it. There are a lot of way cheaper phones/tablets that you can get in order to run GNU/Linux. Why would anybody bother ?

I use an iPad Pro because it had the best form factor + weight + performance combination I could find.

Re: In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Post by galad87 »

znpy wrote: post #20

This is one of the reasons why you should just not buy Apple-branded stuff: such things are designed to be remotely-lockable. With an Android-based device this couldn't happen. Provided that you have a backup of your data, you could just reflash the device, restore your backup and start using the device again. Just don't buy Apple stuff. Between people having assistance denied (example: Linus Sebastian 5 k$ Mac Pro),…

Find my iPhone is optional.

Re: In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Post by rorso »

dawnerd wrote: post #18

I've actually been having problems recently with my account randomly being locked. I suspect it's bots trying to brute force, but its silly apple would lock my account instead of blocking the requests, especially since I have 2fa. Really annoying resetting my password only to have it happen an hour later. Tech support also has no idea why its happening. Thing that I just noticed a few hours ago, their password change…

My kids iPad has been doing the same. It keeps saying we're locked out, and not accepting the (correct) password, and we have to reset the password constantly. No idea why it's happening. I've tried setting simpler passwords (I use KeePass and generate 32char complex passwords by default), but it doesn't help. I never thought of the fact that it could be someone brute forcing it and locking us out, I just shrugged it off as being "typical new-Apple". We're almost completely off Apple devices now because we have so so many problems with them in the last couple years, after being a happy Apple family since the Macintosh SE.

Re: In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Post by madeofpalk »

TekMol wrote: post #30
gambiting wrote: post #24

Tbf - I feel really sorry that this happened to him, but on the other hand, I am extremely glad that a once-locked device can never be unlocked by anyone without a purchase receipt. I'm sure it deters the theft of iPhones/iPads at least a bit if they know the device will become completely useless once locked out.

I have carried around laptops and smartphones for decades now. Not a single one was stolen. Even if one was stolen now, what's the average cost of 'Stuff being stolen' over the years? I had Laptops with me since the 90s. For over 20 years. If my iPad Pro gets stolen now, that's $1000 over 20 years = $50/year. I don't mind. I really would love if a Linux distribution would support the iPad so I know I can do with it w…

Same. I've never had a phone/laptop/tablet/etc stolen.

Yet, "The number of smartphones stolen dropped by 50% in London, 27% in San Francisco and 16% in New York in 2014, according to an announcement by officials in the three cities" since the introduction of these anti-theft measures https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/11/london-sm...

Re: In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Post by drdaeman »

pacificmint wrote: post #12
b3lvedere wrote: post #5

Destroyed? The account does not work anymore, but the device is doing exactly as told. However i agree any electronic device should have the ability to factory reset. Software lock ins are terrible.

> the device is doing exactly as told. As told by whom? It certainly wasn't told to lock up by it's rightful owners. It's not even clear if Apple actually intended this, or if it was some weird side effect.

The rightful owner of the software on device is Apple.

And they've coded the software this way, and are most likely to know about "45 (46, 48) years" effect so even if this behavior was unintentional - it's acceptable for them.

Re: In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Post by gaius »

TekMol wrote: post #30
gambiting wrote: post #24

Tbf - I feel really sorry that this happened to him, but on the other hand, I am extremely glad that a once-locked device can never be unlocked by anyone without a purchase receipt. I'm sure it deters the theft of iPhones/iPads at least a bit if they know the device will become completely useless once locked out.

I have carried around laptops and smartphones for decades now. Not a single one was stolen. Even if one was stolen now, what's the average cost of 'Stuff being stolen' over the years? I had Laptops with me since the 90s. For over 20 years. If my iPad Pro gets stolen now, that's $1000 over 20 years = $50/year. I don't mind. I really would love if a Linux distribution would support the iPad so I know I can do with it w…

have carried around laptops and smartphones for decades now. Not a single one was stolen

Good for you. Meanwhile in London a common crime is for moped riders to snatch phones out of people’s hands. Sometimes there’s a passenger on board who will also spray the victim with acid. Maybe you would mind that?

Re: In which Apple destroys my daughter’s iPad forever

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Post by madeofpalk »

vectorEQ wrote: post #27
mantas wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Functionality like this is pretty good to deter theft. If thieves can't easily re-enable bricked devices, black market price is much lower, thus there's less incentive to mug people carrying those devices.

anti-theft should never impact user experience in such negative way. there are different ways to let the user be in control of this anti-theft technology which are much more user friendly and less prone to these kind of situations.

There certainly is. Don't enable the PIN code.

Security, almost by definition, makes the user experience harder and worse.

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