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And who will decide what is not to be tolerated?
Intolerance towards others will not be tolerated. Simple.
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There's enough people who pretend to be "the Left" and do support or at least enable those people. Thus "the Left" is retarded. But some sane parts are OK. I'd prefer leftist to drop umbrealla naming and just split into factions. Pro-totalitarian/tankies, commie apologists, social democrats etc. But when I offer that, people seem to defend grandiose "the Left" :/
Maybe if you stopped antagonizing and name-calling people with left wing views, you would be met with a lot less hostility. "There's enough people who pretend to be "the Right" and do support or at least enable [fascists and neo-nazi]. Thus "the Right" is retarded. But some sane parts are OK."
What drives me mad is both "the Right" and "the Left" is different sides of the same coin. Both has their fair share of retards and genuinely good people. Both point of views have both pros and cons.
Yet few bad apples on both sides seems to be stopping everybody else from productive discourse.
What is funny, "the Right" was getting more flack for quite a while. Thus they seem to be distancing themselves from their own retards more than "the Left". Good example could be UK. Corbyn's Labour seem to have quite a few issues with that. Meanwhile the right is nicely fragmented into more and less sane parts. Which, while causing it's own problems, does help them with their image. It looks like there's a similar pattern in many countries. IMO if "the Left" embraced it and let it's retards do their own thing, the whole society would benefit in the long run.
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The difference being that the Russian guard will quite possibly like it.
Yeah, or he might be a neo-nazi. It's impossible to know. A better example would be going "hey boy, get back to pickin' cotton!" to a black border guard in the US.
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You seem to be defending all laws of current legitimate governments. Is that right? So if ISIS won the war and became a legitimate government, would you then accept that people should be killed for having gay sex there? Would you ridicule those people, and even gay people in other countries who expressed understanding of their suffering? When I live, saying "Heil Hitler" is not a crime so you have no business telling…
No, I would not. But if I was gay, I would not travel to ISISland and act completely surprised when the executioner comes for me for fucking my boyfriend in the market square.
> When I live, saying "Heil Hitler" is not a crime so you have no business telling me I'm doing anything wrong or that I'm a bad person. I'm following my country's laws.
From a merely moral standpoint, I can still consider you massively corrupt and an example of the worst mankind has created.
> No. They invaded many countries (or states or whatever you'd call the smaller entities that existed) and overthrew their governments.
That's warfare, a thing an US American, citizen of a country that is constantly at war with someone should be inheriently familiar with. If they had started genociding people (like the Nazis, or the Turks, or the Americans), that would be different.
> I'm not the OP of the border guard story and you're making the least charitable assumption about my intentions
You claim you had Nazi symbols on your car. In my eyes, that is worse than the Customs story - your friend could be explained by just being an edgy idiot. You, however, have thought about what you were doing before applying that decal. You knew the history behind those symbols, and you used them to "annoy" (or terrorize?) your neighbors.
No non-fascist person would do something like that, and I would advise you to seek help.
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You seem to be defending all laws of current legitimate governments. Is that right? So if ISIS won the war and became a legitimate government, would you then accept that people should be killed for having gay sex there? Would you ridicule those people, and even gay people in other countries who expressed understanding of their suffering? When I live, saying "Heil Hitler" is not a crime so you have no business telling…
> So if ISIS won the war and became a legitimate government, would you then accept that people should be killed for having gay sex there? No, I would not. But if I was gay, I would not travel to ISISland and act completely surprised when the executioner comes for me for fucking my boyfriend in the market square. > When I live, saying "Heil Hitler" is not a crime so you have no business telling me I'm doing anything w…
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You really shouldn't blame the victim just because you've been reading more news stories than him. It's the sort of thing I might have done when I was younger. I grew up trusting authorities and them always being reasonable and I would never have imagined Germany was such a bizarrely brutal place. People often joke with the workers they have to interact with. I've done that before. It's human nature. I used to have a…
> I used to have a nazi symbol on my car just to rile people up. No healthy person does this "just to rile people up." This is profoundly fucked behavior, and in a sane society it does, and should, lead to ostracizing. Actions have consequences.
They are NOT learning from their history. In fact (to quote from https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/copenhagen-speech-v... ): "I found that, contrary to what most people think, Weimar Germany did have hate-speech laws, and they were applied quite frequently. The assertion that Nazi propaganda played a significant role in mobilizing anti-Jewish sentiment is, of course, irrefutable. But to claim that the Holocaus…
The lesson to be learned is that they did not strike down the fascists hard enough, while they still could. Fascism must be met at all time with hard, Swift and decisive opposition, violent if necessary. There must be no tolerance for ideologies built on intolerance.
You don't sacrifice the principles of free society to save free society, otherwise you don't really believe in it. It's just a pretense for the currently reigning zeitgeist to present itself as being timelessly right and universal.
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Intolerance towards others will not be tolerated. Simple.
So while you are intolerant to Nazis (who you will define yourself) will you be making an exception for yourself, or will you not tolerate your own intolerance to wrongthink?
And no, you obviously shouldn't attack people for "wrongthink". You have to attack them for acts, not for thoughts. Standing up in public and calling for violence and persecution against people is an act, not a thought.
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Yeah, or he might be a neo-nazi. It's impossible to know. A better example would be going "hey boy, get back to pickin' cotton!" to a black border guard in the US.
Well, the difference is that being a (neo)Nazi is, rightly, illegal in Germany. Being a Communist (or even a Stalinist) is perfectly acceptable, and even encouraged from the top, in Russia.
They do try to wrap it in nationalism and appeals to history ("back when the motherland was strong!"), but it's transparently about enforcing the oligarchy.
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Maybe if you stopped antagonizing and name-calling people with left wing views, you would be met with a lot less hostility. "There's enough people who pretend to be "the Right" and do support or at least enable [fascists and neo-nazi]. Thus "the Right" is retarded. But some sane parts are OK."
I couldn't agree more that "the Right" is retarded. What drives me mad is both "the Right" and "the Left" is different sides of the same coin. Both has their fair share of retards and genuinely good people. Both point of views have both pros and cons. Yet few bad apples on both sides seems to be stopping everybody else from productive discourse. What is funny, "the Right" was getting more flack for quite a while. Thu…
Reality and objective truth leans more to the left, in comparison to the current political climate, which is unfortunately skewing to the right in a lot of countries.