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I switched from 1Password to LastPass last year and it was a smooth transition. If they’d had a Linux version I’d still be a customer right now.
We evaluated Lastpass about a year ago and the UI was borderline unusable. Doesn't matter so much for technical teams, but it does in broader use cases.
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As time goes on, I've gotten less and less comfortable using proprietary software for critical tasks. If 1Password were open source, I'd actually be pretty happy to subscribe. But as it stands, I have no faith that the product won't change out from under me in the future, whether due to a pivot, an acquisition, or some other reason. The incentives align in favor of the business, not the customer. IMHO, subscriptions…
For me, something related: can I remove the data in a usable form? 1Password makes that easy, so like others here, I'm happy to pay them to perform the 'eternal vigilance' that secret-keeping entails.
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I suppose the theory is that open source is better (a) because you can audit it if you want to, and (b) it's more likely that someone out there has audited it. In practice, (a) falls apart if the user doesn't have the knowledge, experience, or time necessary to perform an audit, which is quite likely for security software. And I feel like (b) isn't great either, as there are plenty of examples of major flaws in open…
I agree with that assessment, but how many vulnerabilities have been found in closed sourced software? If the software is popular enough, someone somewhere is going to find a vulnerability whether it's open or closed source. Look at all of vulnerabilities that Google has found in closed sourced software. It just takes more skill to find vulnerabilities and incentives. The black hats have found vulnerabilities in iOS…
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Where is it on their website? I haven't been able to find it at all.
I just went through this - there's a tiny "downloads" link at the bottom of their page that takes you to https://1password.com/downloads/ I just went through this. Install v7, open it, unlock your vault, and it'll prompt you to try a subscription, with a tiny option below to just buy a license.
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So if the app were open source and the maintainers decided to abandon it, are you going to download the code and keep it updated? If it is forked are you going to trust the new maintainers? Are you going to audit the source code?
Of course, the answer to all your questions is "not necessarily". Sure, it's totally possible for people to not audit the code, or let it be abandoned–but open source makes this probability much lower, whereas with closed-source software you have no choice in the matter at all.
Although it's been said that they will continue supporting licenses through their website, they have made this feature _extremely_ difficult to find ever since introducing subscriptions. I've been a loyal user of 1Password for a long time, and I think it's great software. I use it on both my Macs, as well as on my iOS devices. However, hiding the non-subscription feature is silly. I do not wish to add yet another sub…
Most of the HN users reading this thread do understand the difference between licenses and subscriptions. It may seem strange but this is not the case for the vast majority of the users. We have customers emailing us about having a 1Password account/subscription since before 2015 (when we only had licenses). We originally started with offering both licenses and subscription as equal options. Here is how it looked: ht…
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So I asked on Twitter, got an answer: https://twitter.com/1Password/status/998337650380738560 Assuming that's correct (since the blog post still strikes me as vague), the answer is clear in their reply: memberships are exclusively cloud, standalone licenses are exclusively local backups / sync.
I’m currently using the 1Password 7 beta with a subscription and no standalone license. I have one vault that is stored in Dropbox and another that is just local. I have no idea why they’ve decided to handle what they’ve called out elsewhere in this thread as an “advanced feature” that won’t be going away by lying about the feature not existing. It seems so weird because their subscriptions work exactly how I’d want…
It's completely ridiculous. And it's burning trust, in a fairly inherently distrustful crowd like you get when you're in the security / crypto field.
So, I'll join the chorus here by saying that I've picked up the subscription fee. I've been using their software daily for over three years. During that time, they have consistently improved their product and have been open about issues (as far as I am concerned). I was a little irked when I saw the subscription model. I was like, "hey, I paid for this." So, I looked up how much I paid in licenses by looking them up.…
Just gonna piggyback off this and say the family plan is an amazing value if you have aging parents. I recently upgraded to one, set up each of my parents with accounts, and moved all of their passwords out the physical and digital notes that their passwords were strung across and into 1password. This means no more iCloud password resets every time they need an app or call me for IT support. It means I can help them…
So, I'll join the chorus here by saying that I've picked up the subscription fee. I've been using their software daily for over three years. During that time, they have consistently improved their product and have been open about issues (as far as I am concerned). I was a little irked when I saw the subscription model. I was like, "hey, I paid for this." So, I looked up how much I paid in licenses by looking them up.…
As time goes on, I've gotten less and less comfortable using proprietary software for critical tasks. If 1Password were open source, I'd actually be pretty happy to subscribe. But as it stands, I have no faith that the product won't change out from under me in the future, whether due to a pivot, an acquisition, or some other reason. The incentives align in favor of the business, not the customer. IMHO, subscriptions…
I have made an exception for 1Password, as it is so good. I hate subscription for software, unless there is a clear benefit. In this case, I don't see the benefit.