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The reason I won’t go for a subscription is because I don’t want to find myself locked out of my password manager if I stop paying the subscription. With IntelliJ (JetBrains) I get perpetual fallback and that makes me super comfortable with a subscription model. Will AgileBits offer perpetual fallback? I doubt it. Their product works well but their marketing team are a let down.
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So if the app were open source and the maintainers decided to abandon it, are you going to download the code and keep it updated? If it is forked are you going to trust the new maintainers? Are you going to audit the source code?
This is the big fallacy I see whenever someone uses open source just because the source code is public. Unless you're able to perform a full audit yourself, is it really any better than a closed offering like 1Password?
In practice, (a) falls apart if the user doesn't have the knowledge, experience, or time necessary to perform an audit, which is quite likely for security software. And I feel like (b) isn't great either, as there are plenty of examples of major flaws in open source projects that went undetected for long periods - heartbleed is just one example.
Good timing that I moved all my passwords from 1Password to Emacs and GPG one year ago. It’s a pity; I’ve been a very happy customer for a long time, had licenses for multiple machines and was happy enough to pay for the updates. But my data shall be my data, again. I’m not paying for an app that I regularly have to buy an upgrade for and which doesn’t give me the opportunity to hold my data locally after explicitly…
People keep bringing this up, and it feels like a major failure of Agilebits marketing approach. The subscription service changes the frequency at which you pay Agilebits; it does not mandate how you store your data. 1Password 7 continues to allow all the kinds of local/Dropbox/etc vaults that prior versions allowed. If somebody at Agilebits is reading this thread: look around at these comments. The lack of clear inf…
However, it would not be the best option for most of the customers. They would have to understand how to take care of local vaults, including syncing, backups, etc. It is really an advanced feature for very technical audience.
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People keep bringing this up, and it feels like a major failure of Agilebits marketing approach. The subscription service changes the frequency at which you pay Agilebits; it does not mandate how you store your data. 1Password 7 continues to allow all the kinds of local/Dropbox/etc vaults that prior versions allowed. If somebody at Agilebits is reading this thread: look around at these comments. The lack of clear inf…
I think it is likely that they want to hide this option, as they have hidden the standalone version. I think their long-term plan is to have everyone on their subscription with data stored in the 1Password cloud. This reduces support and development load (no need to support local/Dropbox/Wifi sync with all its edge cases) and guarantees montly/yearly payments.
If AgileBits was VC-funded then we would have to drop standalone vaults, no doubt. It is a good thing that we are not. We do care about our long-time customers and will provide standalone vaults for as long as there is demand for them. Just please do not ask us to make it a default option.
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Your passwords are stored on their server. You'd have to compile and run your own server, which is more expensive than the $1/month they're asking for.
> You'd have to compile and run your own server, which is more expensive than the $1/month they're asking for. For people like me that already rent a VPS for their mail and website the marginal cost is $0 except for the time it would take for me to perform the installation and setup. If the system is good and stable then the "cost" of the time that I would spend installing it on my server would be close to $0 when di…
1Password for Mac and iOS worked flawlessly. But I recently migrated to Windows and installed 1Password 6 for Windows. It's just bad software. It's not responsive (I'm pressing "Save" and it works for a second or two, while I'm expecting it to respond instantly), it has some obvious UI bugs, but worse of all, it crashes very often, I don't remember a single program that crashes so much. It just feels very unpolished.…
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This is the big fallacy I see whenever someone uses open source just because the source code is public. Unless you're able to perform a full audit yourself, is it really any better than a closed offering like 1Password?
I suppose the theory is that open source is better (a) because you can audit it if you want to, and (b) it's more likely that someone out there has audited it. In practice, (a) falls apart if the user doesn't have the knowledge, experience, or time necessary to perform an audit, which is quite likely for security software. And I feel like (b) isn't great either, as there are plenty of examples of major flaws in open…
I hate subscription models but with 1PW 7 I would have to pay +40 € for each the Mac and the Windows version and still have not access to new features like the travel mode or the CLI client. AgileBits seems to be an honest company and they went the extra mile to backport some new features (TOTP) to their dated 1PW 4 codebase. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and try their subscription and should they ever tu…
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Interesting in that you can host your own instance of their cloud server, but I really prefer something that uses standard cloud storage mechanisms (Dropbox, iCloud, etc.) for sync and works on top of that. Like others here, I'll probably be reevaluating my choice when it feels like it's time to upgrade. For me, some of the open source solutions are perfect as far as the underlying storage format and sync technology,…
It's simple enough to do with some version of KeePass. I'm currently using https://keeweb.info/ and Keepass2Android.
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For me, something related: can I remove the data in a usable form? 1Password makes that easy, so like others here, I'm happy to pay them to perform the 'eternal vigilance' that secret-keeping entails.
For now...