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Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by 0culus »

shinratdr wrote: post #99
0culus wrote: post #82

Although it's been said that they will continue supporting licenses through their website, they have made this feature _extremely_ difficult to find ever since introducing subscriptions. I've been a loyal user of 1Password for a long time, and I think it's great software. I use it on both my Macs, as well as on my iOS devices. However, hiding the non-subscription feature is silly. I do not wish to add yet another sub…

I agree they are burying the hell out of it, but as it stands licenses for 1Password 7 (which is still in beta on Mac & Windows) can only be purchased from within the client, as they want to test the order flow which was rebuilt in this version. The Windows version of 1Password 7 still can’t be licensed, they haven’t built that part yet. The Mac version however can be purchased, and if you plan on sticking with it I…

Where is it on their website? I haven't been able to find it at all.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by cdumler »

So, I'll join the chorus here by saying that I've picked up the subscription fee.

I've been using their software daily for over three years. During that time, they have consistently improved their product and have been open about issues (as far as I am concerned). I was a little irked when I saw the subscription model. I was like, "hey, I paid for this." So, I looked up how much I paid in licenses by looking them up.. in 1Password. Turns out I paid about $40 for the Mac, Windows, iOS, and Android clients. That's $40 over three years for something that I use daily.

Then, look at the $5/mo subscription for families. I get something that gives me access to all their software versions (Mac, Windows, iOS and Android) for five people, my entire family (if my cat ever decides to get a computer). I am a software professional. I pay for tools that keep me going and return me money because they offer me productivity. I pay for Things, Bear, iThoughts, and may other apps that have helped me greatly.

One important statement I make to people is: _the price for security is eternal vigilance_. There are always new ways things get attacked and new ways to be more secure. I realized that I was gladly willing to pay $60/year to keep me and my family going while keeping AgileBits running as well. If there was anything that deserves a subscription, it is your security software. If its any consolation, several of my developer friends feel the same way.

My two cents.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by mitchty »

mitchty wrote: post #63
xxkylexx wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- https://github.com/bitwarden/browser - https://github.com/bitwarden/cli

I saw all that but it looks like you've got to pay a monthly fee for full access for their cloud storage. Not sure its worth the hassle of migrating to in this case.

Asked my buddy what he was using and he pointed me to this: https://www.enpass.io

Seems to fit the bill a bit better. And might mean $12/year less though thats not a huge problem.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by tzs »

pletnes wrote: post #102
tzs wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And besides subscriptions, version 7 will only sync using their back-end, which is not acceptable for me. What do you mean by "only sync using their back-end"?

Older versions could sync with e.g. Dropbox. So to get your passwords, someone would have to break into dropbox and then into your encrypted vault.

Same with current versions, except on Windows. On Windows, 1Password 6 lost that ability, I believe. It's coming back with 1Password 7 on Windows.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by pvg »

bdcravens wrote: post #106
pvg wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this supposed to be a rebuttal to something or do you actually need help finding it?

A little of both. I did a check and I literally couldn't find it. If it's that well hidden (I have a few licenses from prior versions, so I'm not a stranger to the site) isn't that effectively not having the option?

My comment was a response to '1Password is making it so you can never buy a standalone version again'. This isn't true. It is true that they try to steer people into a subscription. But if they wanted to kill the standalone version, they would have. You can download the 1Password 7 beta right now and pay for it once.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by crankylinuxuser »

bpicolo wrote: post #98
ajmurmann wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What value does it provide beyond the old family license pack + syncing of shared vaults via free Dropbox tier?

Probably nothing other than ease of use, but the old model isn't part of the equation for me. 5 bucks a month for my whole family to have good password security practices, and for 1password to sustain continuous updates, is a great deal.

Something as critical as "password infrastructure" should absolutely never be a subscription model. Pay software, sure. But by no means should anybody other than you have the ability to refuse access, especially some company where you are nothing but a $5/month number.

I would be more forgiving if the subscription was for value-added features, like dynamic syncing, or remote encrypted storage. But it ain't.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by byproxy »

hannibalhorn wrote: post #17
spv wrote: post #5

I have been using Bitwarden for some time now. It’s an open source password manager. There are apps for all major platforms and extensions to all major browsers. Checkout https://bitwarden.com/

Interesting in that you can host your own instance of their cloud server, but I really prefer something that uses standard cloud storage mechanisms (Dropbox, iCloud, etc.) for sync and works on top of that. Like others here, I'll probably be reevaluating my choice when it feels like it's time to upgrade. For me, some of the open source solutions are perfect as far as the underlying storage format and sync technology,…

It's simple enough to do with some version of KeePass. I'm currently using https://keeweb.info/ and Keepass2Android.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by nighthawk1 »

rmorey wrote: post #115

Why are people so vehemently opposed to the 1PW cloud sync service? For unenrypted data, I completely understand this. And in general, it's great to have the option to sync using whatever service you want. But the data that 1PW stores is encrypted up the wazoo and AB couldn't extract your passwords from it even if they wanted to. In their security document they even outline how useless it would be for a bad actor to…

I’d rather control the data myself. I view cloud hosted password providers as huge attack targets and they generally get hacked eventually (roboform, lastpass,etc). At least if you control where the data is stored your data can be kept off the radar so to speak.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by mminer »

0culus wrote: post #121
shinratdr wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree they are burying the hell out of it, but as it stands licenses for 1Password 7 (which is still in beta on Mac & Windows) can only be purchased from within the client, as they want to test the order flow which was rebuilt in this version. The Windows version of 1Password 7 still can’t be licensed, they haven’t built that part yet. The Mac version however can be purchased, and if you plan on sticking with it I…

Where is it on their website? I haven't been able to find it at all.

They mention the discount in this blog post: https://blog.agilebits.com/2018/03/28/the-1password-7-beta-f...

"Licenses will be available for $64.99 when we launch later this year, but are available now for only $39.99."

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