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Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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iCloud Keychain is Safari-only.

Not any more. I can access keychain passwords in Chrome on iOS.

It's Safari-only on macOS, as far as I know. It does work with iOS apps and it doesn't work on Windows. It can't replace a password manager unless you use Safari on macOS as your primary browser.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Although it's been said that they will continue supporting licenses through their website, they have made this feature _extremely_ difficult to find ever since introducing subscriptions. I've been a loyal user of 1Password for a long time, and I think it's great software. I use it on both my Macs, as well as on my iOS devices.

However, hiding the non-subscription feature is silly. I do not wish to add yet another subscription (especially something so crucial as my what manages my passwords; I need [edit] it to work, no questions asked), and I would be more than happy to purchase a new license for 1Password 7.

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I really like 1Password, it has been my daily driver for years. The creators gifted me versions for macOS and iOS years ago, so I never had to pay for it - which I would have done happily and, in fact, just recently did. But the push to the cloud versions gives me headache. I don’t want to sync using their cloud - I actually sync using a WiFi server. While it’s (still) possible to obtain the standalone versions, it’s…

But the push to the cloud versions gives me headache. I don’t want to sync using their cloud - I actually sync using a WiFi server.

But it has nice benefits as well, they have a Chrome/Firefox extension (1Password X) that goes with their cloud that works on Linux. Understandably, it would be harder for them to offer this on top of Dropbox or Wifi sync.

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I have a family subscription of 1PW. I can easily share some password with my wife and our daughter is getting used to using a password manager before she's 10.

I totally empathize with those who refuse to use cloud/subscription services as, let's face it, there are a lot of bad actors doing crappy things with our data.

But for me 1Password seems like a small, honest company providing great quality service and software. I'm a happy customer.

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Good timing that I moved all my passwords from 1Password to Emacs and GPG one year ago. It’s a pity; I’ve been a very happy customer for a long time, had licenses for multiple machines and was happy enough to pay for the updates. But my data shall be my data, again. I’m not paying for an app that I regularly have to buy an upgrade for and which doesn’t give me the opportunity to hold my data locally after explicitly…

People keep bringing this up, and it feels like a major failure of Agilebits marketing approach. The subscription service changes the frequency at which you pay Agilebits; it does not mandate how you store your data. 1Password 7 continues to allow all the kinds of local/Dropbox/etc vaults that prior versions allowed. If somebody at Agilebits is reading this thread: look around at these comments. The lack of clear inf…

I think it is likely that they want to hide this option, as they have hidden the standalone version. I think their long-term plan is to have everyone on their subscription with data stored in the 1Password cloud.

This reduces support and development load (no need to support local/Dropbox/Wifi sync with all its edge cases) and guarantees montly/yearly payments.

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Your passwords are stored on their server. You'd have to compile and run your own server, which is more expensive than the $1/month they're asking for.

So you’re paying for the service they offer: a hosted version. You do so because it’s cheaper than hosting your own. There’s no conflict at all with any open source ethic.

Yes, that's exactly what I was saying.

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While I could understand people being upset about this, I pay for a 1password family subscription. It really is a terrific investment. As far as subscription services go it's about the best bang for my buck that I get. A sustainable service model is important for something I rely on so much - especially something that needs to keep on security lockdown. Also makes it easy for the family to share hulu, netflix, whatno…

I just switched over as a long time standalone user, and I completely agree. The 1Password Families subscription provides a tremendous amount of value and the product just keeps getting better.

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Anyone making software wants Abobe/Microsoft margins and enterprise like recurring revenue for their random product. At least in the case of 1password the rate isn’t usurious, but the biggest problem they have is due to a business decision to make the product dependent on a SaaS-like service delivery model.

If it's cloud-based sync, then a subscription model makes sense, but I've yet to find a subscription price that is in line with what I think is reasonable (~$2 / month) for the service.

Bitwarden is $10 per year (if you use the premium features such as 2FA). You can also self-host.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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I did not pay for a subscription software, I bought a password manager which stored password locally. I also don't want to pay for a upgrade just because apple upgraded the OS. I now only buy mac software on Mac App Store. Apps which I have not renewed include 1password, screenflow, textmate, vmware Fusion, Paid Products I wish were on Mac App Store with free updates. Sublime, Paragon NTFS , printopia

So you want perpetual free updates? I think your expectations might be a tad unrealistic.

It should be built into the initial price. And perpetual is unrealistic, but 10 years is not.

Microsoft provides 5 years of Mainstream Support and 5 years of Extended Support at no additional cost (cost is built into the initial license fee).

Heck, I would more trust software that says 10 years of garunteed support rather than lifetime support. Too many companies fudge the meaning of "lifetime", and 10 years blows Google's 2 + 1 years of Android support out of the water.

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