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Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by xxkylexx »

ringshall wrote: post #10
spv wrote: post #5

I have been using Bitwarden for some time now. It’s an open source password manager. There are apps for all major platforms and extensions to all major browsers. Checkout https://bitwarden.com/

To be precise, their base software is Free software, licensed under the AGPLv3. The also distribute non-Free (and non-Open Source, and non-gratis) software. Their base software has an artificial limit in terms of number of users and number of 'collections', which goes contrary to the ethics of Free software.

This is not correct. All of Bitwarden source code is 100% open source. Even the few features that are paid. https://github.com/bitwarden

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by [deleted] »

tzs wrote: post #15
rcarmo wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still, this is a trend I will have nothing to do with if at all possible. And besides subscriptions, version 7 will only sync using their back-end, which is not acceptable for me. On one hand, password managers in browsers are becoming nearly good enough to cover for 80% of my use cases, and most of the other 20% boil down to convenience (ease of pasting, updating, etc.) I don't like the idea of being forced to move…

> And besides subscriptions, version 7 will only sync using their back-end, which is not acceptable for me. What do you mean by "only sync using their back-end"?

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Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by drej »

I honestly can’t remember when I last paid for 1Password, yet I use it on my Mac and iOS devices (since 2011 it seems!). It never prompts me, it just works. I don’t follow the pricing policy changes, the only thing I know is I don’t want a subscription. I just want to pay for this great piece of software.

So I hope this just means I’ll shell out $50 or so and be done for a few years? If so, then great.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by Bud »

drej wrote: post #23

I honestly can’t remember when I last paid for 1Password, yet I use it on my Mac and iOS devices (since 2011 it seems!). It never prompts me, it just works. I don’t follow the pricing policy changes, the only thing I know is I don’t want a subscription. I just want to pay for this great piece of software. So I hope this just means I’ll shell out $50 or so and be done for a few years? If so, then great.

It doesn't mean that, they are aggressively making sure it will never mean that again, and it definitely won't be fifty bucks for a few years. (It's $36/yr.)

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by cygned »

I really like 1Password, it has been my daily driver for years. The creators gifted me versions for macOS and iOS years ago, so I never had to pay for it - which I would have done happily and, in fact, just recently did.

But the push to the cloud versions gives me headache. I don’t want to sync using their cloud - I actually sync using a WiFi server. While it’s (still) possible to obtain the standalone versions, it’s difficult to find them. And I expect that in a few years, they’ll be gone completely.

I am looking into Bitwarden at the moment as a self-hosted alternative but I haven’t decided yet.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by smaddox »

Spooky23 wrote: post #8
rcarmo wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still, this is a trend I will have nothing to do with if at all possible. And besides subscriptions, version 7 will only sync using their back-end, which is not acceptable for me. On one hand, password managers in browsers are becoming nearly good enough to cover for 80% of my use cases, and most of the other 20% boil down to convenience (ease of pasting, updating, etc.) I don't like the idea of being forced to move…

Anyone making software wants Abobe/Microsoft margins and enterprise like recurring revenue for their random product. At least in the case of 1password the rate isn’t usurious, but the biggest problem they have is due to a business decision to make the product dependent on a SaaS-like service delivery model.

If it's cloud-based sync, then a subscription model makes sense, but I've yet to find a subscription price that is in line with what I think is reasonable (~$2 / month) for the service.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by mtkd »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #6

I'm glad they're at least offering non-subscription licenses. I hate feeling like I'm having to buy the software over and over again, just to get security updates. While 1Password works better than the rest of the pack, they're not exactly a fountain of new, needed features.

I've used 1password since 2010 when I paid $69.95 for a family license.

It seems to need upgrading for each new version of OSX - but I still only use the features now that I used in 2010.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by chorsestudios »

nsarafa wrote: post #11

I lost faith in 1Password when they forced me into the subscription model despite paying full price for the product years ago

Came here to say this. I lost a lot of customer loyalty for 1Password after they did this to me. Unless I missed it, no mention of the price of version 7 in the blog post.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Post by ringshall »

shadowmint wrote: post #13
ringshall wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be precise, their base software is Free software, licensed under the AGPLv3. The also distribute non-Free (and non-Open Source, and non-gratis) software. Their base software has an artificial limit in terms of number of users and number of 'collections', which goes contrary to the ethics of Free software.

How can this be an issue if their base software is open source? Just recompile it with the numbers upped, surely?

Gah, you're right. Their paid services and limits seem to be related to their SAS offerings.
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