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Re: $11M settlement reached with Google regarding terminated AdSense accounts

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post #28

This one still stings, even though it was years ago. I built and ran a mobile sports news application, we amassed millions of users and were written up in several publications. One day our AdSense account was disabled, no warning, no nothing. We had never resorted to a single 'trick' or 'hack'. Nobody at Google could even tell us what exactly we were supposedly accused of. After months of escalation, the final word w…

Did you involve legal council?

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Re: $11M settlement reached with Google regarding terminated AdSense accounts

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All ad networks take money away from publishers all of the time. For example, it takes a while to compute the quality score of ad clicks and realize that a site's traffic is full of bots that click on ads and never buy anything. The publisher will see income that gets subtracted back out, sometimes a month or two later. The advertiser (presumably) gets a refund. It appears that Google did something different this tim…

Maybe they didn't return the money back to customers.

That's a given.

Re: $11M settlement reached with Google regarding terminated AdSense accounts

#33

I worked in advertising and I saw how scared AdSense publishers constantly were of getting banned by Google. I understand that Google has to defend their business, but some times they were really harsh on things that were debatable grey areas. I always thought that Google was just needlessly giving itself a bad reputation as a business partner. $11M is about 1 hr of Google's revenue (365 x 24 x 11/100000 = 0.96) EDIT…

11 million is a joke really. I only lost about $250, but it pretty much killed off an otherwise promising potential startup.

Alternative reading: they did you a favor by showing you early on that they could kill your startup at a moments notice. That's a lot better than to have 25 people on the payroll and see your advertising contract go up in smoke (which happened to me).

Re: $11M settlement reached with Google regarding terminated AdSense accounts

#35

Back in the early 2000s I ran Google ads, back when they were only text and small boxes. You had to earn $100 to get a payout I think, and after forever I still had like $12. I forgot about it and eventually pulled the ads. In 2011 I sold the domain to some Irish company that gave me $10k USD for it. ... kinda regret it now. It looks like I have the same Google account (found the old e-mails for adsense on that domai…

Eventually Google will mark your adsense account as abandoned and transfer the money to the state where you can claim it. I'm a few months away before I can claim the $50 I have from adsense.

Re: $11M settlement reached with Google regarding terminated AdSense accounts

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11 million distributed around is going to be close to nothing on a per-publisher basis. I wouldn't be surprised if the spread was more than 100 to 1 on owed vs collected. (so if you lost 100k from a terminated adsense account, I doubt you would even get 1k from this settlement)

Re: $11M settlement reached with Google regarding terminated AdSense accounts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

11 million is a joke really. I only lost about $250, but it pretty much killed off an otherwise promising potential startup.

Alternative reading: they did you a favor by showing you early on that they could kill your startup at a moments notice. That's a lot better than to have 25 people on the payroll and see your advertising contract go up in smoke (which happened to me).

I agree. It also taught me a valuable (and fairly cheap) lesson on not relying on a single source of revenue.

Re: $11M settlement reached with Google regarding terminated AdSense accounts

#38
post #17

I get the "We think your business is a scam and so we are terminating our relationship" but I don't understand why "... and we'll keep the money." doesn't result in criminal charges.

Coinhive works that way as well. I believe it is justified to call both a scam by themselves. Why? Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (innocent until proven guilty). The problem lies with our justice system though. If it were more efficient we'd have less things like self-censorship and self-moderation.

> Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (innocent until proven guilty).

Seriously?

Re: $11M settlement reached with Google regarding terminated AdSense accounts

#39
When I was in college I had a website that I ran google ads on. I let a balance build up over time so I could use the money to buy school books. When I attempted to cash out Google (which up until that time had no problem profiting off of my site) decided that I was part of a clickfraud ring and refused to pay out the money. There was no way to appeal.

Honestly, to this day, I am still far less likely to use Google services (I won't touch Google's Cloud, for instance) because of how bad that experience was. The stress of being a college student who needed that money was definitely a multiplier, but at the end of the day I don't think it's possible to expect Google to do the right thing when it comes to customer support- especially when they can directly profit by hurting them.

Re: $11M settlement reached with Google regarding terminated AdSense accounts

#40
post #28

This one still stings, even though it was years ago. I built and ran a mobile sports news application, we amassed millions of users and were written up in several publications. One day our AdSense account was disabled, no warning, no nothing. We had never resorted to a single 'trick' or 'hack'. Nobody at Google could even tell us what exactly we were supposedly accused of. After months of escalation, the final word w…

Did you involve legal council?

You need at least a coven or cabal to take on Google, council isn't going to cut it.
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