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Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by [deleted] »

freeflight wrote: post #236
JFFalcon wrote: post #176

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Maybe they should have just let people upload audio files with a title card, rather than fragment the service into another app. Would have fixed the bandwidth/battery problem and kept the interface, network, etc.

Lots of music just have a static image anyway, I wonder if YouTube couldn't figure something out to automatically re-encode such videos into audio-only streams, making them less bandwidth intensive. I'm no coder but that doesn't sound like something impossible to do.

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Post by Scottopherson »

starshadowx2 wrote: post #276
cobookman wrote: post #270

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I disagree. My YouTube experience greatly improved with red. No more ads. Ability to download videos for a long commute / plane ride.

You can do all of that easily without paying though, and without having the two screens issue.

Adblock or youtube-dl does not allow the video creator(s) to be paid for their content. I tried patreon to support creators I like but not all of them use it and their pricing changes awhile back turned me away. Youtube red has been a much better alternative.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by kyrra »

The recode[0] and cnet[1] articles have some additional details that people seem to be asking about here.

> In a briefing this week, the company promised it will be closing gaps between the two services over the next month, so Google Play Music members don't lose the features they've grown accustomed to, including a cloud-based MP3 storage locker.

* Anyone paying today will be grandfathered in at their current price into Youtube Premium. If you aren't paying, Music will cost $10, Premium will be $12 for new subscribers.

[0] https://www.recode.net/2018/5/16/17363334/youtube-music-laun...

[1] https://www.cnet.com/news/youtube-music-is-googles-latest-st...

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Post by Sylos »

dTal wrote: post #226
dandare wrote: post #205

All I need is the ability to listen to the audio of YT videos with my phone screen off.

NewPipe has a "background mode". There's a short hiccup when you switch to "background mode" but you can still control it from there so it's not so bad. I find it shocking that Google is permitted to charge money for a feature like that, when as far as I can tell most of the music on Youtube was uploaded without permission of the copyright owner.

I mean, they're not, according to their own ToS (or even their own interpretation of it).

It says something in there along the lines of video and audio may not be separated. On the basis of which, they ran a witch hunt on all 3rd party YouTube apps on the Play Store, which had a background playback feature.

This in itself makes no sense, as separating video and audio during playback had always been possible on the desktop by simply switching to a different tab in your browser or minimizing the window.

But obviously, this wasn't about showing integrity. They published YouTube Red with its background playback feature just a few months after this witchhunt.

And since the Play Store is their property, they didn't even need a legitimate basis for throwing these apps out. They own the market, so they were able to just shut out the competition.

Don't build your life on Google property...

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Post by freeone3000 »

vntok wrote: post #204
pavel_lishin wrote: post #200

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Google Reader, Google Wave, any of whatever chat/video/voice offerings they're planning on killing off in the next year or so. I don't even remember what they're called.

Which of those products were paid products and killed off?

Google Play Music isn't a paid product for me.

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Post by emodendroket »

macspoofing wrote: post #280

The way Google brands products reminds me of Microsoft when they tried to attach an unrelated product to a moderately popular consumer brand (Looking at you Groove Music, I mean Xbox Music, I mean Zune Music) There is nothing wrong with Google Play Music apart from the 'Play' misnomer. Google Music should be a standalone product that competes with Spotify. It's a well defined and well understood category. YouTube is…

In principle at least, it might be nice to have live performances and music videos too.

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Post by remir »

matwood wrote: post #181
SllX wrote: post #62

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Well we're at 4 or 4.5 now. 1. YouTube 1.5 YT Music (basically a music-oriented front-end to YouTube) 2. Google Play Music All-Access 3. YouTube Music Premium (from the article) 4. (or 3.5) VEVO I particularly enjoyed this quote: > The days of jumping back and forth between multiple music apps and YouTube are over. As the above list shows, this is demonstrably false. Given that YouTube Red (or YouTube Premium as they…

It's comical. Google needs some PMs/POs/management who can reign in all the obvious internal politics. Google could own the streaming market if they could just build a coherent product, instead we get what you listed out.

Well, where's the CEO? Where's Sundar?

All these different music apps and messaging apps... What's going on at Google?

What a mess.

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Post by apatters »

Joeboy wrote: post #271
aylmao wrote: post #243

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Chiming in real quick. Why the downvote HN? Let a guy have his preferences (:

I don't know for sure why the downvote, but maybe because Thailand is a place where you can be imprisoned or exiled for criticizing the (late) king. It's not hard to imagine somebody on HN might not be cool with somebody supporting that sort of enforced devotion.

Just to clarify, you can also be imprisoned for criticizing the current King, as well as any of the late Kings at all.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by brianpgordon »

macspoofing wrote: post #280

The way Google brands products reminds me of Microsoft when they tried to attach an unrelated product to a moderately popular consumer brand (Looking at you Groove Music, I mean Xbox Music, I mean Zune Music) There is nothing wrong with Google Play Music apart from the 'Play' misnomer. Google Music should be a standalone product that competes with Spotify. It's a well defined and well understood category. YouTube is…

Just so you're aware, you already get background playback on mobile devices if you pay for YouTube Red.
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