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Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by swebs »

realusername wrote: post #54
balls187 wrote: post #37

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I'm not sure your exact use case, but if you are a Youtube red subscriber, the official IOS app continues to play audio if the app is in the background.

Ah really? I'm on Android and don't have a Youtube account at all. I mean the app should work the same way as desktop, the video does not stop when I switch tabs on my browser... I understand that they are trying to sell Youtube Red this way but there's probably a better way than sabotaging their own app.

On Android there is a better YouTube client available called NewPipe. It's FOSS and you can get it on F-Droid. It enables you to play music in the background along with other features.

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Post by kankroc »

mrweasel wrote: post #68
erikpukinskis wrote: post #20

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What you’re saying seems like it must be true... Google must be so strong at ML. How could it be otherwise? And yet, YouTube recommendations are terrible lowest common denominator nonsense. It’s just “more of the same” for some surface level definition of “same”. There doesn’t seem to be any playfulness to the learning algorithm at all. No Bayesian experiments. There’s no flex. Amazon too... so much data, so many sma…

One of the many problems with machine learning, and using it for recommendations, is that it completely ignores how humans think and behave. Just because I watch a few videos of a certain type today, and actively seek them out, doesn't mean that I want to see similar videos again next week. Maybe I was just in the mood for that type of content today, tomorrow may be something completely different. That being said, Yo…

Anecdotal, but I recently wanted to make bread. I watched 4-5 videos to get the gist of it, made bread, all is good.

Except it's not. About 70-80% of my recommandations on YouTube are about bread now.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by digi_owl »

propogandist wrote: post #179
IshKebab wrote: post #128

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Good point. I wonder if Google will start banning that to make YouTube Red/Premium more attractive.

If they do this, their content creators will leave for another platform.

What other platform?

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by gdilla »

matwood wrote: post #181
SllX wrote: post #62

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Well we're at 4 or 4.5 now. 1. YouTube 1.5 YT Music (basically a music-oriented front-end to YouTube) 2. Google Play Music All-Access 3. YouTube Music Premium (from the article) 4. (or 3.5) VEVO I particularly enjoyed this quote: > The days of jumping back and forth between multiple music apps and YouTube are over. As the above list shows, this is demonstrably false. Given that YouTube Red (or YouTube Premium as they…

It's comical. Google needs some PMs/POs/management who can reign in all the obvious internal politics. Google could own the streaming market if they could just build a coherent product, instead we get what you listed out.

Google could literally buy the music industry with cash sitting around.

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Post by bsharitt »

ebiester wrote: post #189
bsharitt wrote: post #188

>If you are a subscriber to Google Play Music, good news, you get a YouTube Music Premium membership as part of your subscription each month. And if you use Google Play Music, nothing will change Right now I get YouTube Red with my Google Play Music subscription, so it sounds like I'm losing that, that's actually a very big change. Instead of a nice little add on, I now get a subscription to a completely redundant se…

I may be naive, but I don’t think they meant to say the two were unbundled. They’re changing the name of YouTube Red to YouTube premium but it seems like they’re keeping the two bundled.

They specifically mention that Google Play Music subscribers will be getting access to YouTube Music, so I would take that to mean not YouTube Premium(i.e. renamed Red).

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Post by kiaulen »

digi_owl wrote: post #193
propogandist wrote: post #179

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If they do this, their content creators will leave for another platform.

What other platform?

A bunch left for twitch after the demonetization scandal. A few use exclusively Patreon, but there's no discoverability there.

I will agree there's not a lot of options, though.

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Post by midvar »

icebraining wrote: post #109
weavie wrote: post #98

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It knows which device is currently playing. Anything you do sends it to the currently playing device. You can pull up a list of all connected devices and select which one you want to be playing. It then starts on the new device from where the old one left off. It works really well. I have my raspberry pi plugged into my amplifier, and play through that. I control it with my phone or laptop, whichever is nearer.

I think the question is about the media keys. What happens if your phone is playing something on Spotify, and your laptop is playing something on VLC, but also has Spotify open? Does pressing the skip media key make both players skip, or just one of them?

On Windows hold shift then press the media keys to control a second (background) program. Found this out purely by accident in this exact scenario, VLC in foreground and Spotify in background!!!

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by Antimachides »

reificator wrote: post #165
bryogenic wrote: post #151

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> Shame Google Play Music is going away What makes you say that? From the linked blog: > If you are a subscriber to Google Play Music, good news, you get a YouTube Music Premium membership as part of your subscription each month. And if you use Google Play Music, nothing will change -- you’ll still be able to access all of your purchased music, uploads and playlists in Google Play Music just like always.

> What makes you say that? Years and years of experience with cloud-hosted products and anything that requires official support to continue to function.

Could you elaborate?

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Post by pavel_lishin »

IshKebab wrote: post #128
18973424 wrote: post #122

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YouTube Red is the stupidest thing ever. It advertises as "youtube without ads", but the majority of ad content is embedded into the videos by the creators in the form of often undisclosed product placement.

Good point. I wonder if Google will start banning that to make YouTube Red/Premium more attractive.

How do you ban something like that? If I make a video in which I happen to be drinking a Mr. Pibb, how do you tell the difference between it being undisclosed product placement vs. me being thirsty?

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Post by pavel_lishin »

Antimachides wrote: post #198
reificator wrote: post #165

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> What makes you say that? Years and years of experience with cloud-hosted products and anything that requires official support to continue to function.

Could you elaborate?

Google Reader, Google Wave, any of whatever chat/video/voice offerings they're planning on killing off in the next year or so. I don't even remember what they're called.
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