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Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by Mindwipe »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #82
fluxsauce wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> maybe they'll buy up PornHub and add PornHub subscriptions to the stack whether you want it or not, just to make your recurring monthly payments a bit stickier Purely from a payment processing point of view, unless Google wants to fight Visa, MasterCard and other institutions this will never happen. There are a lot of restrictions around content and payment processors that you would assume is covered by freedom of…

Freedom of speech does not cover corporations, I really don't get why that is still being brought up. Credit card companies don't want to be held responsible if your CC payment is being used for the sexual exploitation of people. They don't want to be associated with revenge porn, etc. I'm sure there's a puritan reasoning in there too somewhere, but TBF I doubt that's the primary reason given how big the porn market…

Freedom of speech SHOULD cover corporations. Especially in situations where an effective duopoly has frightening amount of international control that ultimately drawves most nation states, as is the case with Visa and MasterCard.

Visa and MC should be broken up, or at the very least regulated to the extent they can't cough without regulatory oversight.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by dragonwriter »

Mindwipe wrote: post #251
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Freedom of speech does not cover corporations, I really don't get why that is still being brought up. Credit card companies don't want to be held responsible if your CC payment is being used for the sexual exploitation of people. They don't want to be associated with revenge porn, etc. I'm sure there's a puritan reasoning in there too somewhere, but TBF I doubt that's the primary reason given how big the porn market…

Freedom of speech SHOULD cover corporations. Especially in situations where an effective duopoly has frightening amount of international control that ultimately drawves most nation states, as is the case with Visa and MasterCard. Visa and MC should be broken up, or at the very least regulated to the extent they can't cough without regulatory oversight.

> Freedom of speech SHOULD cover corporations

It does, the same way it covers everyone else: corporations are actors who have freedom of speech, a fundamental component of which is the ability to choose what speech they will and will not participate in, either as initiator or intermediary.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by Mindwipe »

bestnameever wrote: post #29
mrbill wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

nope, you have to pay $12 to continue having Red. :(

Google support told me the opposite. Why does everything need to be so confusing?

Google Support are correct, and that is what the article says. The poster you're replying to is simply wrong.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by Mindwipe »

anchpop wrote: post #231
swebs wrote: post #158

I'm worried about using a service like this after Youtube started censoring videos that don't match their political ideology. Will YouTube Music be censoring songs that have references to guns? Are they going to randomly demonetize songs that use bad language? Why not just use Spotify then?

The competition is fierce enough in this field that that's not really an option for them

Google Play Music never really made playing uncensored music work, and that never bothered them.

If you uploaded tracks you'd frequently get the radio edit played back.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by darkstar999 »

gldalmaso wrote: post #169
birdman3131 wrote: post #17

What sells me on spotify is the ability to control it from any device. Listening on my phone while at my computer? Hit skip on my keyboard and the phone skips to the next track. Playing on my Dot? I can pause right from my phone. Ditto with volume control. I wanted to like amazon music but I could not because of the lack of these features.

Different story for me. I listen to desktop spotify while at work regularly. Every time I lock my computer to go have lunch and want to listen to spotify on my car, there is the dreaded "Listen on this device option" which will randomly appear either right when I start playing on my phone or 5 minutes later when I'm already driving and my phone is locked, which stops the current playing music. Also, if I choose to li…

I don't have that problem. It might be because you leave the music playing on your desktop?

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by darkstar999 »

theNJR wrote: post #225
swebs wrote: post #158

I'm worried about using a service like this after Youtube started censoring videos that don't match their political ideology. Will YouTube Music be censoring songs that have references to guns? Are they going to randomly demonetize songs that use bad language? Why not just use Spotify then?

Who is also censoring based on their ideology...

Spotify.

https://newsroom.spotify.com/2018-05-10/spotify-announces-ne...

Although they aren't removing music or changing it, they just don't put it in their curated or autogenerated playlists.

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Post by damontal »

hknd wrote: post #135
tokyodude wrote: post #61

YouTube is the only service I've used that gets WORSE if you pay. Without paying I can watch one video on my TV while browsing other videos on my laptop to queue up. With paying as soon as look up a video on my laptop I get an error on the tv "only one device allowed"

So I'm use red simultaneously on my TV (androidtv), my laptop, my phone and my tablet. All without any issues.

i i'm playing music on google play and go to watch a youtube video, i get a warning that i'm listening on another device. doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen.

Re: YouTube Music, a new music streaming service, is coming soon

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Post by jkaplowitz »

dannyw wrote: post #175
jordonwii wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> > If you’re already a YouTube Red (soon to be YouTube Premium) member > I subscribe to google play music but if I look at my youtube red status is says member. So I assume, I will continue to enjoy it at no extra cost. I chatted with google and they said the same but the wording is really confusing...so who knows. That's reflecting the current pricing structure, no? Currently, buying play music also gets you read.…

But buying YouTube Red gets you GPM and will get you YT Premium. Buying GPM which gets you YTR won’t get you premium? It’s the same price!!

Not the same price for those of us who were grandfathered into the $7.99/month GPM intro price. Hence the problem. Otherwise a switch to YTR before May 22 would remove the uncertainty.

Also, I subscribed when living in the US and now live in Canada. I'm wondering if I can somehow retain the grandfathered price or an equivalent discount whenever I switch my Google account to know that I live in Canada now. Somehow I'm guessing not... $9.99 Canadian is actually less than $7.99 US most of the time, but YTR isn't available on this side of the border, so I can't lock that in. (YT Premium will be here, the announcement says, at some unspecified later date.)

Canada seems to have the same $7.99 grandfathering deal (but in Canadian dollars) for its early subscribers. Time to ask Google support what they can do, I guess...

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