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Introducing Surface Hub 2

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Re: Introducing Surface Hub 2

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Post by partiallypro »

gagege wrote: post #12
reacharavindh wrote: post #9

Very creative, and cool, but a part of me cringes thinking of people touching those displays with their greasy fingers...

What makes me cringe is the thought of trying to answer the video call which Skype proceeds to drop and you spend 15+ minutes trying to reconnect with the caller which leads to you just using the old fashion conference telephone sitting on the table.

I know Skype has its problems, but trust me as someone that went from working for a Microsoft Office 365 based company to a Google GSuite based company that Hangouts is not much better. Drops are common among other strange bugs.

Re: Introducing Surface Hub 2

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Post by ChuckMcM »

nxrabl wrote: post #87
ChuckMcM wrote: post #41

I would love a Surface Hub, I tried to buy one and couldn't because they were only available to 'qualified' customers (something an individual apparently never could be). Now with 4K (or 8K!) displays it becomes completely credible to replace a white board with one. And the benefits of the shared whiteboard and presence is really solid when working with someone who isn't local. The software infrastructure investment…

Sage2 [0] is one open source option with support for both the remote collaboration and whiteboard components, although it's more focused on larger arrays of average resolution screens. I've used it and it's quite functional, even if not as polished as Microsoft's offering. [0] http://sage2.sagecommons.org/

Ok that looks like a good start!

Re: Introducing Surface Hub 2

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Post by ZuLuuuuuu »

rgbrenner wrote: post #25
Suspect wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zune. Surface RT. Kinect. Windows Phone. Band. Just naming some things that I've personally purchased and Microsoft no longer supports. They are no better than Google at continuing to support their products.

Zune: introduced 2006; discontinued: 2012; support ended 2015 (9 years) Surface RT: introduced: 2012; Discontinued: 2013; Windows support ends 2023 (11 years) Kinect: introduced 2010; discontinued: 2015 for windows; 2017 for xbox; still supported (no date announced AFAICT) Windows phone: introduced: 2010; last release 2015; windows phone os support ended 2017 (7 years) Band: introduced 2014; discontinued 2016; still…

That support means just security updates. I have bought a Lumia 820 and then Lumia 950 and the "real" updates stopped happening after only 1.5 to 2 years. Lumia 820 did not get Windows 10 update (although officially promised by Microsoft).

Is Lumia 950 still supported? On the paper, yes. But there are no new features, only security updates. When we bought Microsoft ecosystem hardware, software-wise they had a long way to go until they caught up with Android and iOS, but we saw the potential, they were releasing new features to catch up with the rest of the competition. When updates stopped after just 1.5 years, we ended up with half baked products.

I am not even mentioning the investment I did as a developer to develop Windows Mobile apps.

Sorry but I am not giving any credits to Microsoft. They tried to make money on short term, and when they couldn't, they abandoned users.

I can give credits to the Microsoft engineers though, they created a great operating system and a great SDK which works on all screen sizes, with different hardware and with any input type. And you can develop an application using both native technologies or the first class citizen web technologies.

Re: Introducing Surface Hub 2

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Post by EnderMB »

cwyers wrote: post #69

Am I the only one who sees this and wishes Microsoft was still doing something in the phone space?

I think the dream for a lot of people is a Surface Phone, built on Android.

From a privacy standpoint it'd probably be absolute hell, but the build quality of every Surface product I've used has been phenomenal, so if they could translate this to a flagship phone with features they'd run away with a good portion of the market.

The flagship market seems pretty desperate at the moment, with choosing a top-tier phone being a game of choosing what feature you could live without instead of having the features you want.

Re: Introducing Surface Hub 2

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

menacingly wrote: post #15

The thing Microsoft seems to get is that you can keep grinding on these devices even if they aren't smash hits. Eventually people like me start to consider them a viable alternative because we know they aren't going to give up on them like Google.

As a Mac user in the Pro market this is what I currently admire about MS over Apple.

MS genuinely seems to be trying hard to scratch the itches of people in the workplace and more importantly sticking with it while Apple couldn't even commit correctly to a screenless pro desktop.

So many people in the Apple circles made fun of the Surface line, but look at Apple now the iPad Pro with it's keyboard and pen is a direct response and attempt to imitate that niche MS worked hard to carve.

Definitely got my eyes on Surface line with how bad my experience with the USB-C MBP has been, 6 months in both my command key and return key are screwed.

Re: Introducing Surface Hub 2

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Post by pharaohgeek »

ktpsns wrote: post #2

I love such devices. However, similiar to smartphones they depend so much on the software, and Microsoft is not too known for interoperability. How can my Linux and Mac OS X colleagues participate and contribute in the meetings? Such tools need open platforms and communities which build them. I'm especially concerned because Microsoft stopped the support for a native Linux Skype client.

That's my big gripe with this. I'm not a huge fan of anything from Microsoft, but these look VERY cool. However, we're a big Mac/iOS shop, so interoperability would be a concern. And, I'm afraid, non-existant.

Re: Introducing Surface Hub 2

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Post by jazoom »

EnderMB wrote: post #114
cwyers wrote: post #69

Am I the only one who sees this and wishes Microsoft was still doing something in the phone space?

I think the dream for a lot of people is a Surface Phone, built on Android. From a privacy standpoint it'd probably be absolute hell, but the build quality of every Surface product I've used has been phenomenal, so if they could translate this to a flagship phone with features they'd run away with a good portion of the market. The flagship market seems pretty desperate at the moment, with choosing a top-tier phone be…

My SP4 is still working okay but my wife's SP3 had the keyboard stop working for no apparent reason. It's actually the device itself since my keyboard won't work on hers either.

Re: Introducing Surface Hub 2

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Post by freeone3000 »

ZuLuuuuuu wrote: post #113
rgbrenner wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zune: introduced 2006; discontinued: 2012; support ended 2015 (9 years) Surface RT: introduced: 2012; Discontinued: 2013; Windows support ends 2023 (11 years) Kinect: introduced 2010; discontinued: 2015 for windows; 2017 for xbox; still supported (no date announced AFAICT) Windows phone: introduced: 2010; last release 2015; windows phone os support ended 2017 (7 years) Band: introduced 2014; discontinued 2016; still…

That support means just security updates. I have bought a Lumia 820 and then Lumia 950 and the "real" updates stopped happening after only 1.5 to 2 years. Lumia 820 did not get Windows 10 update (although officially promised by Microsoft). Is Lumia 950 still supported? On the paper, yes. But there are no new features, only security updates. When we bought Microsoft ecosystem hardware, software-wise they had a long wa…

So your problem is that the product, as you purchased, works just as well as the day you bought it, and continues to get security updates? You seem to be upset about things that it was not and will never be, and not anything that it was that it no longer is.

Re: Introducing Surface Hub 2

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Post by freeone3000 »

FooHentai wrote: post #105
davidy123 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you buy a product like a Windows RT device, you don't just expect it to be supported, you expect it to be part of a growing ecosystem of products and services. That is not what happened with Windows RT. The fact it was dropped so quickly shows it was very half-baked, despite how long it may be supported.

Yup, mostly because unlike other similar devices, the RT was limited to only what was available within the store, and within that only those items specifically targeting the RT. It's not even as good a situation as you have with things like the google play or apple stores, as the architecture restricted the ecosystem. Example: There are pretty much no browser options on Surface RT other than an obsoleted IE. Certainl…

UWP apps can be marked as "RT Compatible" and they should also run. You won't get any Xbox Games, but you'll be able to get... checks microsoft store ...Candy Crush looks like the best thing on there.
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