I Got Catfished by a Candidate

Post by desdiv » Wed, May 16, 2018, 1:15 AM UTC

stordoff wrote: post #119

gumby wrote: post #31

> backdoor reference checks aren’t always considered kosher by everyone ?? These are the most important references. Many excellent candidates won't have a back connection but when they are possible they can make an important difference two ways: One is the way described here (or, "this person was OK but doesn't sound like they would work out for the kind of thing you want -- that was where they failed with us too.").…

The fact that they are interviewing with a particular company is private information; you have no right to make that public. Also of note is that the article claims that "if I didn’t do my backdoor checks I would have never uncovered the Catfish", but then later states the "fake manager [was] one out of the two people that I knew from Acme Corp". Had she waited 'til that point, she would have discovered the lie witho…

Post by wool_gather » Wed, May 16, 2018, 1:17 AM UTC

lovich wrote: post #203

abiox wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> He chooses the time, place, and manner of his work, including subcontracting it. all of this is entirely within the scope of the contract. "subcontracting" is unlikely to be permissible in a variety of scenarios, especially if the material being worked on is even vaguely sensitive. when it does happen, it's typically in a larger organizational context and then there will usually be some vetting or approval process.

If you are controlling how work is done then you have an employee. If subcontracting is unacceptable and you are still hiring contractors then you are just trying to run around employment law, at least in the US

Post by drdeadringer » Wed, May 16, 2018, 1:22 AM UTC

eigenvector wrote: post #199

deviationblue wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similarly, rule #4: Google candidate. What happens if candidate doesn't have Google presence? Or if there are other people with the same name as the candidate who have weird websites or videos posted somewhere. Give me a break, let's not get paranoid about hiring. You can always let someone go.

There's a guy with my name, roughly the same age as me, from the same hometown who's a recently paroled pedophile. All the top results when you search my name are about him. So yeah, I'm not enthusiastic about Googling every candidate.

Post by drdeadringer » Wed, May 16, 2018, 1:26 AM UTC

Johnny555 wrote: post #218

johnwh wrote: post #144

Backdoor references are very unethical in my opinion. Beyond the fact that you are telling a third party about someone’s job search without the searcher’s consent, you can also get a very biased opinion. My wife was fired from a job at a well known University in the area. She had 2 bosses in a year, one of them twice after coming back from prolonged mental health leave. Within a month of coming back my wife’s boss ha…

Backdoor references are very unethical in my opinion. Beyond the fact that you are telling a third party about someone’s job search without the searcher’s consent, you can also get a very biased opinion. But frontdoor references are guaranteed to be biased no one (well, almost no one) is going to use someone that didn't like them as a reference, they are going to dig up someone that will say something good about them…

Post by [deleted] » Wed, May 16, 2018, 1:28 AM UTC

Willson50 wrote: post #2

Does being a catfish really matter if they passed the rest of the interview process?