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Enslaved and then marooned on Tromelin Island for fifteen years (2014)

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Re: Enslaved and then marooned on Tromelin Island for fifteen years (2014)

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Post by emmelaich »

Another fascinating but gruesome shipwreck story:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batavia_(ship)#Shipwreck

> With a dedicated band of murderous young men, Cornelisz began to systematically kill anyone he believed would be a problem to his reign of terror, or a burden on their limited resources. The mutineers became intoxicated with killing, and no one could stop them. They needed only the smallest of excuses to drown, bash, strangle or stab to death any of their victims, including women and children

More: http://members.iinet.com.au/~bill/batavia.html

Re: Enslaved and then marooned on Tromelin Island for fifteen years (2014)

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Post by jacquesm »

mboto wrote: post #30
jacquesm wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it should be illegal in all contexts because the slaves did not consent and they were people too. Not recognizing them as such does not make it legal.

They're talking about what was legal then. We're all agreed slavery should be illegal now, even if it isn't explicitly set down in law.

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

Re: Enslaved and then marooned on Tromelin Island for fifteen years (2014)

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Post by B1FF_PSUVM »

dang wrote: post #17
AnimalMuppet wrote: post #6

"Illegally enslaved" isn't accurate. The slave trade was legal at the time. What wasn't legal was the ship (and/or captain), and the destination.

That's a hell of a nitpick, but ok, we've taken 'illegally' out above.

This is not the nitpickers anonymous meeting?

(Does he get a prize?)

Re: Enslaved and then marooned on Tromelin Island for fifteen years (2014)

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Post by praha14 »

kizer wrote: post #8

I wonder which life would have been better for them. Would you trade everything for freedom?

How can it be freedom? They don’t have a living wage, healthcare, education, etc- none of the things we consider necessary to be free.

Re: Enslaved and then marooned on Tromelin Island for fifteen years (2014)

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Post by txsh »

toomanybeersies wrote: post #23
commandlinefan wrote: post #20

Earlier today the headline read “illegally enslaved”, like in the linked article. I almost pointed out that that was redundant, but I figured there was no point. Apparently it did bother somebody.

It's not redundant. Slavey was legal at the time, but these people in particular were illegally enslaved.

No. They were not. They were illegally purchased.
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