Earlier today the headline read “illegally enslaved”, like in the linked article. I almost pointed out that that was redundant, but I figured there was no point. Apparently it did bother somebody.
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Re: Enslaved and then marooned on Tromelin Island for fifteen years (2014)
#22Earlier today the headline read “illegally enslaved”, like in the linked article. I almost pointed out that that was redundant, but I figured there was no point. Apparently it did bother somebody.
Legal slavery was commonplace at the time the events described took place.
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#23Earlier today the headline read “illegally enslaved”, like in the linked article. I almost pointed out that that was redundant, but I figured there was no point. Apparently it did bother somebody.
It's not redundant. Slavey was legal at the time, but these people in particular were illegally enslaved.
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#24Earlier today the headline read “illegally enslaved”, like in the linked article. I almost pointed out that that was redundant, but I figured there was no point. Apparently it did bother somebody.
Chattel slavery is illegal. You could argue that other forms exist legally, such as prison labor: prisoners are explicitly exempted from the 14th amendment. It’s the eighth amendment prisoners rely on. Note that they’re paid? So have many types of slaves, including roman and american chattel slaves.
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#25Earlier today the headline read “illegally enslaved”, like in the linked article. I almost pointed out that that was redundant, but I figured there was no point. Apparently it did bother somebody.
Slavery is perfectly legal today in many countries, including the United States. The Constitution permityls slavery as the punishment for a crime (which is why prisoners can be worked for essentially zero pay).
Re: Enslaved and then marooned on Tromelin Island for fifteen years (2014)
#26Earlier today the headline read “illegally enslaved”, like in the linked article. I almost pointed out that that was redundant, but I figured there was no point. Apparently it did bother somebody.
Chattel slavery is illegal. You could argue that other forms exist legally, such as prison labor: prisoners are explicitly exempted from the 14th amendment. It’s the eighth amendment prisoners rely on. Note that they’re paid? So have many types of slaves, including roman and american chattel slaves.
Don't forget about "children".
Re: Enslaved and then marooned on Tromelin Island for fifteen years (2014)
#27Here is a HN thread from 2015 with 131 comments for those who are interested: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10802088
It is well worth reading the comments - it contains a discussion about how long you can run a fire burning only wood from your boat. Out pops the guy with boat burning experience.
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#28Amazing story. Was I the only one who was disappointed that I cannot click the images to see a larger photos?? Surprisingly the internet doesn't seem to have a better resolution as well... :(
Much of the world has been explored and photographed, but not necessarily since the advent of high resolution digital photography and drones. I have a dream of sailing to remote places like this and documenting them for Wikipedia.
Re: Enslaved and then marooned on Tromelin Island for fifteen years (2014)
#29What a coincidence, just a few hours ago, I found similar stories:
Blackbirding in the Pacific: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackbirding
All able-bodied men kidnapped from the 3 islands of Tokelau: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokelau
Re: Enslaved and then marooned on Tromelin Island for fifteen years (2014)
#30"Illegally enslaved" isn't accurate. The slave trade was legal at the time. What wasn't legal was the ship (and/or captain), and the destination.
I think it should be illegal in all contexts because the slaves did not consent and they were people too. Not recognizing them as such does not make it legal.
They're talking about what was legal then. We're all agreed slavery should be illegal now, even if it isn't explicitly set down in law.