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Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones

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Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones

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Here's a the same story via the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/may/14/australia... A quote contained within both stories: > The software company Oracle revealed Google could be harvesting a gigabyte of data from Android devices each month Given that my data plan is 1.5 GB/month, I would notice if a gigabyte magically disappeared every month (it doesn't). Hopefully the ACCC has enough skepticism…

No surprises here. Guardian(Rupert Murdoch) + Oracle = Smear Google

You are confusing the Guardian with something else. The Guardian is left-leaning, independent, and not associated with Rupert Murdoch.

Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones

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They may though because of the difficulty of deciding if you are subject to GDPR. ie what if an Aussie moves to the EEU and becomes a resident, bringing an Australian-purchased phone? How long can someone visit the EEU before becoming a resident (I have no idea and suspect the rules may not be crystal clear.)

If the origin of the traffic is within the EEU, GDPR applies. So the moment you visit the EEU, GDPR applies; irrespective of residency status. The moment you leave the EEU, GDPR no longer applies, even if you are an EU resident.

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Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones

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post #108

Here's a the same story via the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/may/14/australia... A quote contained within both stories: > The software company Oracle revealed Google could be harvesting a gigabyte of data from Android devices each month Given that my data plan is 1.5 GB/month, I would notice if a gigabyte magically disappeared every month (it doesn't). Hopefully the ACCC has enough skepticism…

No surprises here. Guardian(Rupert Murdoch) + Oracle = Smear Google

Murdoch's company owns The Sun and The Times (London) among others, not The Guardian.

Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones

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Are barometric sensors commonplace in smartphones?

That's the component that Apple replaced the headphone jack with, apparently.

That's interesting! Do you know where I can find more information about this?

Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones

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If the origin of the traffic is within the EEU, GDPR applies. So the moment you visit the EEU, GDPR applies; irrespective of residency status. The moment you leave the EEU, GDPR no longer applies, even if you are an EU resident.

No, the GDPR applies to any company that handles data of EU residents; You can read more about it in this FAQ: https://www.eugdpr.org/gdpr-faqs.html

He's right.

from your link:

> It applies to all companies processing and holding the personal data of data subjects residing in the European Union, regardless of the company’s location.

its amazing how much misinformation is floating around... i recently read on HN that it also applies to eu citizens living abroad, but thats wrong.

https://www.compliancejunction.com/does-gdpr-apply-to-eu-cit...

Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones

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The article states: > The experts, from computer and software corporation Oracle, claim Google is draining roughly one gigabyte of mobile data monthly from Android phone users’ accounts as it snoops in the background, collecting information to help advertisers. Then goes on to give a cost breakdown of how much this hypothetical data download is costing Australian's via their mobile data connections.

It's Oracle. You must ask yourself, what's in it for them? And is it actually true?

It's Google. you must ask yourself, what aren't they collecting?

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chrome/ium is even worse. google employees revert community features (e.g. hiding/limiting referrer header, essential for adwords revenue) silently with big unrelated commits (the referrer one at least 3 times)

Can I read a bit more about this? In any case, you can still use the --no-referrers option, don't you?

no, reverted and that setting is no more. for a very long time by the way.

Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones

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I would really like to explicitly tell Google to stop tracking my location. Period. Despite what might be in their terms of service,this tracking is a violation of privacy. I have never given informed consent to such locstion tracking, and still get prompts to 'rate this location' despite having explicitly disabled location history. Google location tracking is increasingly unethical.

I think your realistic options are to move the EU or to stop using Google. Maybe one day they'll offer a subscription based fee for it's services, but for now you pay with your data.

In EU they're still tracking you, for now. Every time I get near a McDonalds it asks me to take a photo of it.

Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones

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Here's a the same story via the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/may/14/australia... A quote contained within both stories: > The software company Oracle revealed Google could be harvesting a gigabyte of data from Android devices each month Given that my data plan is 1.5 GB/month, I would notice if a gigabyte magically disappeared every month (it doesn't). Hopefully the ACCC has enough skepticism…

Geee i guess because you stated under oath your device doesnt drain 1gb of data then we can all quietly go to sleep now.

If i were still at Google, and given this project, it would be obvious to tap into mobile brands feed and only use mobile data plans of those who wouldnt notice that 79% of their data disappear. Google knows precisely what plan you have and what data use and still have for the month period through reading your IMEI and many other tricks.

Re: Australian regulator investigates Google data harvesting from Android phones

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Here's a the same story via the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/may/14/australia... A quote contained within both stories: > The software company Oracle revealed Google could be harvesting a gigabyte of data from Android devices each month Given that my data plan is 1.5 GB/month, I would notice if a gigabyte magically disappeared every month (it doesn't). Hopefully the ACCC has enough skepticism…

Since the submitted story ( https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/technology/smartphones/acc... ) has an autoplay video, we might as well switch to the other one. (I'm assuming they're roughly equally informative.) Thanks!

Actually I thought the originally submitted article had a more informative title: "ACCC investigating Oracle research showing Google users Android phone plan data to spy." The article content is approximately equivalent; though of low value in both cases
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