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Malaysia Opposition, Led by 92-Year-Old, Wins Upset Victory

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Re: Malaysia Opposition, Led by 92-Year-Old, Wins Upset Victory

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Nice strawman. No, there is not, but everything the US and the NATO does is to protect Israel at the detriment of the rest of the world. The fact that there's no way to have this conversation just proves it further.

> everything the US and the NATO does is to protect Israel "Everything" is pretty strong word. Let's see if it's born out: https://www.nato.int/cps/ua/natohq/news.htm

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Re: Malaysia Opposition, Led by 92-Year-Old, Wins Upset Victory

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As a Malaysian, this win is so amazing. Literally against all odds. I’ve never been more proud of my fellow Malaysians. Najib had control of the Election Comission, Registry of Socieities, Attorney General, Inspector General of Police, and his own political party. With this power he shamelessly gerrymandered, deregistered the opposition coalition, appointed someone to proclaim him innocent in 1MDB investigations, loc…

As an Englishman that has lived in Malaysia for about 15 years no, I share that pride :)

Re: Malaysia Opposition, Led by 92-Year-Old, Wins Upset Victory

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> former had the latter jailed on (...) sodomy charges Wow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_Ibrahim_sodomy_trials "Sodomy, even if consensual, is punishable by up to 20 years' imprisonment and whipping under Section 377B of the Malaysian Penal Code.[18]" "(defined as "carnal intercourse against the order of nature")" It's not written in the article how much, but it seems Anwar Ibrahim spent quite a lot of time in…

That was the law in tons of US states until 2003 or so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_Stat...

Thanks: In the US, according to Wikipedia: before "2003, the penalty for violating a sodomy law varied very widely from jurisdiction to jurisdiction among those states retaining their sodomy laws. The harshest penalties were in Idaho, where a person convicted of sodomy could earn a life sentence. Michigan followed, with a maximum penalty of 15 years imprisonment while repeat offenders got life.[citation needed]"

To compare, in the UK the maximal penalty until 1967 was two year prison with the hard labor, until 1885 life imprisonment, and before 1861 death.

Re: Malaysia Opposition, Led by 92-Year-Old, Wins Upset Victory

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Yes it can. Some objectives includes true da'wah. An effort to demonstrate a kind, tolerant and true Islam. Best example you can see today is the atmosphere of the election itself. Near non-existent violent / provocation or mass street demonstration has occurred. This is arguably the most peaceful turnaround of power ever in history of democracy. And we even accepted a 92-year old as our President.

I am not living in Malaysia anymore, so I haven't followed the news lately. But wasn't part of this coalition, strong especially in east coast, very conservative party that wants to bring some very lethal punishments for petty crime (like chopping hands) as part of their agenda?

The conservative party you mentioned are no longer in coalition with the new government.

Re: Malaysia Opposition, Led by 92-Year-Old, Wins Upset Victory

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> former had the latter jailed on (...) sodomy charges Wow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_Ibrahim_sodomy_trials "Sodomy, even if consensual, is punishable by up to 20 years' imprisonment and whipping under Section 377B of the Malaysian Penal Code.[18]" "(defined as "carnal intercourse against the order of nature")" It's not written in the article how much, but it seems Anwar Ibrahim spent quite a lot of time in…

That was the law in tons of US states until 2003 or so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_Stat...

Kinney Friedman told a story about a famous Texas lawyer who got his clients charge of sodomy reduced to “following too close”.

Re: Malaysia Opposition, Led by 92-Year-Old, Wins Upset Victory

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Because the leader isn't the point; the political parties are . He's a unifying figure for an ethnic-minority and liberal-opposition coalition very different from the one that's ruled the country since independence.

“The Europeans killed six million Jews out of 12 million. But today the Jews rule this world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them.” - The Prime Minister Elect of Malaysia. He’s the liberal opposition?

Mahathir was the Prime Minister who cleaned up the mess George Soros made in 1998, and I'm sure that when he talks about Jews, he means one in particular. That isn't an excuse.
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