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“In my experience young people, especially the post-90s generation, are reluctant to work overtime – they are more self-centered,” says labour rights expert Li Jupeng, one of many who have observed some millennials challenging the 996 concept. self-centered is a funny word. It implies selfish, but is it really selfish if it's self-preservation?
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Last time they stood up to speak, 10,000 students were murdered in public to make an example. They might think twice now.
btw, those students were communists protesting the privatization of collective farms among other things under Deng.
Although Communism and Democracy are frequently seen as opposites in the West, Chinese propaganda doesn't hesitate to claim Democracy for themselves (there are elections after all) and volunteering in various state-adjacent organizations is encouraged. From the point of view of an upstanding party member, organizing a student rally probably seemed like the right thing to do, in good old revolutionary tradition.
NASA supposedly found that its programmers' code quality dropped after about 40-45 hours of work per week. Scandinavian and Slovenian immigrants to the USA, working as coal miners, felt that 8 hour days were important ( http://collections.mnhs.org/MNHistoryMagazine/articles/52/v5... pg 254) and negotiated to have that included in their employment contracts. So is it perhaps universal that 8 to 10 hours per day is wha…
Who's not tired of working overtime?
The article references the 996 hours and the title of the article is about UNPAID overtime. If it truly is unpaid, I would walk away in a heartbeat as well. Unless it’s office work, getting tired in a warehouse would mean higher chances of injury and death. Would you in the US be informed that you are getting paid $20/hr but it stops at 8 hours? There is a reason that the US has laws about the minimum that people can…
"There is a reason that the US has laws about the minimum that people can get paid on a salary." There is no federal law in the US about that. California has such a law, but it requires being reported to be enforced, and as such, is not very often enforced.
The Fair Labor Standards Act.
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=0bd0fa78-f456...
Someone else here can speak to whether the exemption rate minimum was officially raised from the old $455 per week (the DOL was attempting to increase it). You legally must be paid at least the minimum wage unless you're exempt, and then the minimum weekly pay is in force. The only exclusions are for tip workers, certain types of farm labor, and certain types of seasonal temporary employment.
The DOL also recently increased its penalties for non-compliance:
https://www.fisherphillips.com/Wage-and-Hour-Laws/flsa-penal...
Very interesting article, but I was disappointed that the article stated that the millenial only-children of China are "outspoken", "pampered", or "self-centered". I don't believe that any of those terms apply to people who are fighting against working 72 hours per week for low pay. This is a case of basic human rights. The words that come to mind to describe the folks who are fighting this fight are "proud", "resili…
> This is a case of basic human rights. There's no such things as "human rights standards" for how much you should work per week. For most of human history people lived in abject misery and precariousness and in comparison 72 hours a week and most folks having all the comfort of modern city life is not as bad as it sounds like.
Past excesses are how we got to current "human rights standards". Also, rationally, good feeling from being tough on those entitled lazies should not be reason to stop discussion about whether such schedule is reasonable.
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That is the joke. The communist government, that was supposed to liberate the people, created this situation. It didn't work like it was supposed to did it?
China is not communist, it's state socialism! No one has ever tried communism. (Except that they obviously tried state socialism, which is supposed to be the precursor to socialism, which itself is a precursor to communism, but going through the precursor steps to communism doesn't count as trying communism because... reasons.)
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You’re not wrong, but for most of human history I could declare that you offended me and challenge you to fight to the death. “Most of human history” is a bad standard and is essentially hypocritical to raise selectively. People don’t compare their lives to those of ancient barbarians, they look around themselves today and they look to the future. Few people will be convinced by the argument that they have it better…
> “Most of human history” is a bad standard and is essentially hypocritical to raise selectively. I made that point because someone referred to "human rights" when it comes to working hours. There is just no such thing and there has never been.
NASA supposedly found that its programmers' code quality dropped after about 40-45 hours of work per week. Scandinavian and Slovenian immigrants to the USA, working as coal miners, felt that 8 hour days were important ( http://collections.mnhs.org/MNHistoryMagazine/articles/52/v5... pg 254) and negotiated to have that included in their employment contracts. So is it perhaps universal that 8 to 10 hours per day is wha…
I'm curious if the 40-45 hour work week is cultural. Maybe if society was set up for a 20 or 60 hour work week, we'd see the same type of productivity cliff.
NASA supposedly found that its programmers' code quality dropped after about 40-45 hours of work per week. Scandinavian and Slovenian immigrants to the USA, working as coal miners, felt that 8 hour days were important ( http://collections.mnhs.org/MNHistoryMagazine/articles/52/v5... pg 254) and negotiated to have that included in their employment contracts. So is it perhaps universal that 8 to 10 hours per day is wha…
I'm curious if the 40-45 hour work week is cultural. Maybe if society was set up for a 20 or 60 hour work week, we'd see the same type of productivity cliff.