>the global currency of the future, that they need to buy some, and that he’s the man to safeguard it. Looks like in the future people hoard currency instead of spending and investing it then. That ought to be interesting. It also demonstrates the costs associated with non-reversible transactions, these vaults aren't storing gold ingots or priceless artifacts, just private keys. Banks around the world don't need to w…
That's because - and everyone but the uninformed or idealists know this - it's an investment product. It's simply not suitable as a currency, because one, inflation / instability, and two, it can only do what, a dozen transactions a second, if that? That's not nearly enough to become a viable currency.
The Wealthy Are Hoarding $10B of Bitcoin in Bunkers
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Speak for yourself. I use bitcoin all the time for payments. Peer to peer using coinbase(email) for free and instant to friends. Shift card for free and instant at merchants. Bitcoin is beyond blockchain, companies have built products to trade BTC instantly, free, using the infrastructure already existing. The transaction time 'problem' doesnt really exist if you are into crypto, you know how to use it. And I dont tr…
Bitcoin is a fiat currency. It's backed by nothing. Encryption keys, and bits on a disk, have absolutely no value whatsoever.
my bad
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#124According to its proponents, Bitcoin is digital gold. (Interestingly it’s not an “electronic currency” anymore even though that was the original title of the 2008 whitepaper. I suppose Lightning Network or something is supposed to fix that with new transaction layers backed by the Bitcoin gold.) One aspect of gold’s historical value is that it’s traditionally recognized even in societies in collapse. I’ve never under…
Your points are valid. IMO the key tradeoff b/w gold (analog) and bitcoin (digital) is extra resiliency vs usability. If there were a systemic collapse breaking governments, knocking off power and telecom networks etc, gold would be immediately most valuable. But more quickly than fiat, bitcoin would be useful. Power and telecom systems are more resilient to systemic collapse (& have more bouncebackability) than a fu…
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Speak for yourself. I use bitcoin all the time for payments. Peer to peer using coinbase(email) for free and instant to friends. Shift card for free and instant at merchants. Bitcoin is beyond blockchain, companies have built products to trade BTC instantly, free, using the infrastructure already existing. The transaction time 'problem' doesnt really exist if you are into crypto, you know how to use it. And I dont tr…
So, you're actually trusting coinbase, just like I trust my bank.
I dont keep most of my bitcoin in coinbase.
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#126“You couldn’t pay me to keep it with a bank.” Because if there's one thing banks are known for, it's running off with client assets suddenly and without warning. Oh wait, that's cryptocurrency startups...
Capital controls are real
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#127One could be hesitant about spending away their Bitcoin to buy a shiny new bigger TV, while they'd happily part with USD for the same expense. Former, I'd say, has a more natural alignment with our incentives to spend thoughtfully.
Also, I am not sure if everyone shares the value of eating the planet at a faster rate for employment and GDP numbers.
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#128Bunkers? Like prepper bunkers? To survive what? If things go __that__ sideways, a hoard of crypto-currency will be the least of their worries. Apparently, even the financially wealthy can be common sense poor.
Alternatively, if things really go that sideways bitcoin will be the only valuable currency in the world.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Speak for yourself. I use bitcoin all the time for payments. Peer to peer using coinbase(email) for free and instant to friends. Shift card for free and instant at merchants. Bitcoin is beyond blockchain, companies have built products to trade BTC instantly, free, using the infrastructure already existing. The transaction time 'problem' doesnt really exist if you are into crypto, you know how to use it. And I dont tr…
I am curious, how were you doing any of these things 4 months ago when the average transaction fee was $40?
Shift card had like a 10$ fee for printing the card, but its free and instant.
The only time I did an on-chain transaction in the last 3 years was moving money to another exchange to buy alt-coins.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Coinbase transactions are done 'off-chain'.
So the decentralized solution to a centralized banking system needs a centralized totally not a banking system to work?