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How Mapbox Is Winning Over Developers to Challenge Google's Mapping Dominance

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Surprising to see competition in a space that is so dominated by Google. I hoped it’d be some open source endeavor, but seeing the link was Forbes I shouldn’t have gotten my hopes up... that said competition and options is good!

It's not surprising at all. Google have essentially built a moat that is very hard to cross: https://www.justinobeirne.com/google-maps-moat

Specific map rendering projects from mapzen:

Web Renderer: https://github.com/tangrams/tangram Native/Mobile Renderer: https://github.com/tangrams/tangram-es

Native renderer can be accessed for android through gradle, ios through cocoapods and even available on raspberry pi.

Scene file documentation: https://github.com/tangrams/tangram-docs https://mapzen.com/documentation/tangram/ (still seems to work :D)

Scene file authoring tool: https://github.com/tangrams/tangram-play Which continues to live at http://tangram.city/play/

One of the great features of tangram is to embed any glsl shader in the scene file, which gets injected during rendering and "transforms" the map rendering and the map experience to a all new level, giving the some great flexibility cartographer/designer/developer will like.

As an example check this demo "tron" scene: https://tangrams.github.io/tron-style/#15/37.7926/-122.4003 (source: https://github.com/tangrams/tron-style)

Tangram had some great consumer base including this amazing project called StreetComplete (https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/). Check it out and use it to improve osm street data.

Also mapzen's geocode engine Pelias, continues to live as geocode.earch, which it out at https://geocode.earth/.

Disclamer, I used to work for mapzen on the tangram-es (native rendering) project and still supporting the project in the open source world (along with other tangram-es developers).

If anyone interested has any questions, you can contact me @tallytalwar on twitter.

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There are more alternatives to Google & Mapbox that mostly use OpenStreetMap as a backing data source: https://openmaptiles.org (only map tiles) https://stadiamaps.com (map tiles, static maps & routing) https://www.thunderforest.com (only maps) https://geocoder.opencagedata.com (only geocoding) https://geocode.earth (only geocoding) A laundry listing: https://switch2osm.org/providers/ Tile providers are very thankful…

Is there anyone providing free high-res satellite tiles?

Simple answer is no. But it depends on what you consider high-res, ESA does provide live feed out of they one satelite snd you might use those for constructing your tiles, still it is nowhere close to off shelf solution.

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There are more alternatives to Google & Mapbox that mostly use OpenStreetMap as a backing data source: https://openmaptiles.org (only map tiles) https://stadiamaps.com (map tiles, static maps & routing) https://www.thunderforest.com (only maps) https://geocoder.opencagedata.com (only geocoding) https://geocode.earth (only geocoding) A laundry listing: https://switch2osm.org/providers/ Tile providers are very thankful…

Do you know of any tile service offering colored, shaded elevation reliefs? I've been trying to find something for our meteorologists to use and the best I've found is https://maps-for-free.com

Try Thunderforest - relief is one of their specialities.

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Since Google Maps jacked up their prices a few days ago, I've been exploring alternatives, including Mapbox. Unfortunately Mapbox is also very steep for a solo developer developer who wants to build a side project - at least if it's considered 'commercial'. $500 / month for only 250 users, and no way to plan beyond that without inquiring with them about an "enterprise" plan. Also, if anyone from Mapbox is reading thi…

> no way to plan beyond that without inquiring with them about an "enterprise" plan.

I find it interesting how often people (myself included) are willing to consider spending hundreds of dollars on a product or service, but aren't willing to take 30 seconds to send an inquiry email or ring a sales line. Possibly it stems from cynicism (or from a perception that "if you have to ask, you can't afford it") but a few times now I've grumblingly made contact with a supplier only to find that the prices are very reasonable and they're great to deal with.

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There are more alternatives to Google & Mapbox that mostly use OpenStreetMap as a backing data source: https://openmaptiles.org (only map tiles) https://stadiamaps.com (map tiles, static maps & routing) https://www.thunderforest.com (only maps) https://geocoder.opencagedata.com (only geocoding) https://geocode.earth (only geocoding) A laundry listing: https://switch2osm.org/providers/ Tile providers are very thankful…

Is there anyone providing free high-res satellite tiles?

Depends on what your definition of "free" is - beer or liberty? There are some free-as-in-beer satellite providers, but none that are free-for-anything - e.g. ESRI is freely available for OpenStreetMap edits, but probably not for commercial use: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Esri

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More crucially, they are winning over executives of medium-to-large internet businesses with superior sales and marketing. Individual engineers at these places do not have the power to make decisions about which map software to use, which are often six- or seven-figure contracts. Mapbox offers a service that is comparable to Google Maps in terms of price, quality and flexibility. From a technical standpoint, there ar…

Out of curiosity, did you have a paid support plan for Google Maps, or what are you basing your impressions of their support on? Also, part of the Google Maps Platform launch is that support (as in, being able to file tickets and get answers) will be extended to all users: https://mapsplatform.googleblog.com/2018/05/introducing-goog... Disclaimer: I used to work on Maps Support at Google.

I'm just relaying the reason the senior director gave us for the switch. I evaluated Mapbox, but more from the angle of can we use this rather than should we. It was really as if the decision had been made already.

We did have a paid package with Google Maps. Good to hear that Maps is amping up their support.

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There are more alternatives to Google & Mapbox that mostly use OpenStreetMap as a backing data source: https://openmaptiles.org (only map tiles) https://stadiamaps.com (map tiles, static maps & routing) https://www.thunderforest.com (only maps) https://geocoder.opencagedata.com (only geocoding) https://geocode.earth (only geocoding) A laundry listing: https://switch2osm.org/providers/ Tile providers are very thankful…

Just wanted to add another geocoding provider to the list https://geocod.io - founded about 4 years ago based on frustrations with Google’s terms and pricing.

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Yeah, its unfortunately missing a lot of alaska. But the main problem is I have no idea how to reproject it into web-mercator and generate usable tiles from it.

https://github.com/andrewharvey/srtm-stylesheets might help (Full disclose I'm the author)

This looks awesome. Using those scripts I think I could actually do this myself.

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Same boat, but does this help at all? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SRTM

This is just what the comments you replied to were discussing

You’re right, but seems to include implementations the user may be able to leverage? Specifically "In Use" and "Data in OSM format (XML)"
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