Why Men Love War (1984)

Post by 1000units » Sat, May 05, 2018, 1:59 AM UTC

whatshisface wrote: post #16

Mononokay wrote: post #5

> But I believe that most men who have been to war would have to admit, if they are honest, that somewhere inside themselves they loved it too, loved it as much as anything that has happened to them before or since. This sounds conspicuously like the conservative version of the people who say "All men secretly desire to rape women."

I think this was written back before "people" became standard, in the 1980s I think "men" was still in vogue. It says men every few words, but that probably meant less than it does now. Aside, I think it's insane to argue that men "love war" while at the same time admitting knowledge of Vietnam. Weak men like to feel tough by pretending to like war, as if a politician would exert themselves more or less by calling in…

Post by ShabbosGoy » Sat, May 05, 2018, 2:01 AM UTC

1000units wrote: post #21

whatshisface wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this was written back before "people" became standard, in the 1980s I think "men" was still in vogue. It says men every few words, but that probably meant less than it does now. Aside, I think it's insane to argue that men "love war" while at the same time admitting knowledge of Vietnam. Weak men like to feel tough by pretending to like war, as if a politician would exert themselves more or less by calling in…

War is a call to power and a purpose. It's also disgusting, but a man can get used to anything.

Post by reese_john » Sat, May 05, 2018, 2:06 AM UTC

Post by booleandilemma » Sat, May 05, 2018, 2:09 AM UTC

reificator wrote: post #10

Mononokay wrote: post #5

> But I believe that most men who have been to war would have to admit, if they are honest, that somewhere inside themselves they loved it too, loved it as much as anything that has happened to them before or since. This sounds conspicuously like the conservative version of the people who say "All men secretly desire to rape women."

Or less controversially: "Everybody pees in the shower". No, sorry. I know you want to feel justified for doing so. But no.

Post by bazeblackwood » Sat, May 05, 2018, 2:13 AM UTC

bazeblackwood wrote: post #22

Not that this isn't an interesting read (albeit mostly a lengthy rationalization of shared trauma) but they really need some better editors over at Esquire — spelling, spacing and grammatical errors everywhere. Edit: there appears also in the text, frequently, the world "tile" as an adjective. "tile night" "tile blackness" "tile war". Methinks someone needs a better find + replace regex.