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Have you tried fresh spinach instead of lettuce in your salad? I like it a lot, it tastes better. There are also other greens, rocket is quite popular in Europe. We also eat ramsoms in the spring - it tastes like garlic but has a fainter taste without the garlic stink.
Spinach isn't much better[1]. [1] https://www.medicaldaily.com/e-coli-contamination-found-7-sp...
How salad became a major source of food poisoning in the US
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So your claim is you have better scientific basis than industry experts? I'll gladly challenge you to a 6-12 month comparison of you eating meats and me eating a primary plant based diet and pay for WellnessFX panels. If you lose you repay me. Edit: vegetable --> plant, and if I win (we can agree on some defined objective comparisons and scoring offline) I'll even donate the money you'd have repaid back to the charit…
I have already done this for the past 5 years on a rather strict ketogenic diet eating a fair share of red meat. It's been nothing short of amazing for my health. I'm not saying it's the only way to be healthy, far from it. We are very adaptable. But for me at least, it does not seem to be detrimental in the least.
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Using a defensive position from the "white" meat interest is likely inaccurate. Red meat consumption is on the rise: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-02/have-a-me...
The article you linked is showing data for red meat + poultry, so it doesn’t support the statement that red meat consumption is on the rise.
https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/livestock-meat-domest...
Scroll down to the Beef pivot table. Increases year over year.
Yes, red meat consumption is on the rise, along with others.
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It's chopped into hundreds of tiny pieces. Do you wash each piece individually? Or dump it into a bowl of water and swirl it around?? And then your salad is a soggy soup!
Does dumping it into a colander, and running water across it not count? (Essentially, the same way one would wash fruit such as blueberries or strawberries, though I usually use the box those come in since they already have holes.)
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I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting that we eat fewer leafy greens. I, however, definitely think that there could be a lot of improvements to the way that we farm them.
The issue isn't suggestions, it's how consumers behave when told that leafy greens killed some people.
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If you read the article, there's a bigger chance of getting E. Coli from greens... Also, I believe that was a joke.
This is most certainly untrue. All you have to do is consider the fact that all uncooked meats come with a warning. This is because it is well known, and admitted by the meat and egg industries, that raw and undercooked meats and eggs are unsafe for consumption. This is because of the environments they come out of. Greens on the other hand are not fertilized with manure or subject to E.Coli laden environments during…
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#157Not to be graphic here, but when they are picking lettuce where the portable bathroom is - is important. These guys are pushed for time -- and if the potty is too far away... Also, to deal with this, some farms have movable portable bathrooms on wheels that hover over the produce or in between and follow the group, I am sure they leak. https://toddbigelow.photoshelter.com/image/I0000BLSwooXCRac
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> And if you buy pre-cut bagged salad, how can you wash that? Not sure what you mean? Why can't you wash it?
It's chopped into hundreds of tiny pieces. Do you wash each piece individually? Or dump it into a bowl of water and swirl it around?? And then your salad is a soggy soup!
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#159Okay, so how do I lower my risks? Should I stop buying pre-washed? Should I buy local? I like my salads, how do I get it safely on my plate?
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#160The reason vegetables are poisonous is because of the animal waste that is being used to grow plants. If there wasn't such a huge livestock industry, people wouldn't be using their excrement for fertilizer and our plants would be safer.
It’s not animal waste. It’s human waste.