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Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by majani » Tue, May 01, 2018, 3:15 PM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #348

ibdf wrote: post #333

It's clear from reading the threads in here that user experience on either side is not consistent. That's fine, get what works for you. If you have an android and it's not working for you, then switch to an iphone, and vice versa. Try a flip phone if you need simplicity. What I don't get it... is this fanboyism, this loyalty to a company that knows you as close as a number on a spreadsheet and a dollar amount on thei…

Sample size of this thread is too small. Based on the fact that almost all the profits in the phone market go to Apple, obviously they are providing something people want that others can't. In other words, Apple consistently provides a user experience that more people prefer compared to Androids.

Not really. The luxury market is less about fulfilling basic needs and more about telling a good story and differentiating the owners of luxury from normal people

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by mediocrejoker » Tue, May 01, 2018, 3:15 PM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #348

ibdf wrote: post #333

It's clear from reading the threads in here that user experience on either side is not consistent. That's fine, get what works for you. If you have an android and it's not working for you, then switch to an iphone, and vice versa. Try a flip phone if you need simplicity. What I don't get it... is this fanboyism, this loyalty to a company that knows you as close as a number on a spreadsheet and a dollar amount on thei…

Sample size of this thread is too small. Based on the fact that almost all the profits in the phone market go to Apple, obviously they are providing something people want that others can't. In other words, Apple consistently provides a user experience that more people prefer compared to Androids.

Profits go to Apple but I think unit sales sway heavily towards Android, don't they? Apple has much higher margins, so maybe you could say that people who prefer Apple prefer it more heavily than those who slightly prefer Android.

My preference is Apple currently but I think Android is probably better value for the money in most cases.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by AlphaWeaver » Tue, May 01, 2018, 3:15 PM UTC

patja wrote: post #313

The iPhone walled garden is what gets my goat, particularly when it comes to the impact it's had on my children. Combined with an observation that there is a distinct subset of people who buy iPhones who seem uninterested in how technology works or engaging deeply in solving technology interop problems when things go wrong. I get that's part of the feedback loop -- you buy an iPhone because "ack, technology! I just w…

I deal with this even with college students I work with. Nobody seems to care or realize why Apple doesn't let you "blue bubble text" with Android users, and many don't seem to understand there's no technical limitation, and that its only Apple trying to close off their ecosystem.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by Analemma_ » Tue, May 01, 2018, 3:15 PM UTC

ibdf wrote: post #333

It's clear from reading the threads in here that user experience on either side is not consistent. That's fine, get what works for you. If you have an android and it's not working for you, then switch to an iphone, and vice versa. Try a flip phone if you need simplicity. What I don't get it... is this fanboyism, this loyalty to a company that knows you as close as a number on a spreadsheet and a dollar amount on thei…

> What I don't get it... is this fanboyism, this loyalty to a company that knows you as close as a number on a spreadsheet and a dollar amount on their bank account.

I don't approve of platform fanboyism myself, but there is more to it than this. Loyalty to a platform often comes from approving of that company's particular business model and wanting to see it succeed over the others for moral reasons.

iOS fans like Apple's philosophy of "you're the customer, not the product" and deliberately not hoovering up data; Android fans like being able to load any application and change almost any setting on a device they own without a gatekeeper saying they can't. These aren't irrational things to be in favor of.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by jawilson2 » Tue, May 01, 2018, 3:17 PM UTC

viraptor wrote: post #268

ntsplnkv2 wrote: post #231

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Almost every modern car now has USB or bluetooth, even cheap entry level compact cars. > Friends car? Stereo in the summer vacation house? Bluetooth speakers are pretty much ubiquitous nowadays. I don't think I've seen an aux cord in 2 years. Why should a tech company design for old tech? Do you also dislike monitors that don't have VGA just in case? I'm not saying there are scenarios where that would be an issue. Bu…

My last 3 cars had Bluetooth in them. Each had some kind of issue with it. For some reason car manufacturers put in crap that's anywhere between incompatible and randomly failing when connecting to flagship phones. And there's no real way to report an issue back to then. So they do have Bluetooth and I still use the aux cable with them.

A typical interaction with bluetooth audio on both my iPhone 6 and Pixel 2 goes like this:

Press pause

Wait 5 seconds

Press pause again, only the original pause has now registered finally, and turned back into a play button, so the audio is playing again.

Turn on NPR instead.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by threegrand » Tue, May 01, 2018, 3:18 PM UTC

patja wrote: post #313

The iPhone walled garden is what gets my goat, particularly when it comes to the impact it's had on my children. Combined with an observation that there is a distinct subset of people who buy iPhones who seem uninterested in how technology works or engaging deeply in solving technology interop problems when things go wrong. I get that's part of the feedback loop -- you buy an iPhone because "ack, technology! I just w…

This sounds like Blackberry and BBM when I was growing up in high school. I had a Sony Ericsson, and would feel fairly excluded from other friends who were all talking on BBM. But I have grown to realize how much of a fad that was and how quickly it passes.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by ajonit » Tue, May 01, 2018, 3:18 PM UTC

YouKnowBetter wrote: post #136

My whole family (parents, sister & her kids, wife & our kids) have switched to iPhones (and macos devices) years ago. Result: 1. no "technical" issues anymore. As the go to IT guy in the family this alone is worth the supposed premium price one pays for the Apple logo. 2. Everything is updated, at all times. 3. "Facebook logs my sms" are a none issues 4. All devices die of old age (even the devices that have since lo…

I was the first one in family to move to iPhone when 5s came out. Since then EVERYONE in my family and extended family has moved from BlackBerry/Android to iPhone and every single person had that "wow" moment and were like why didn't we start using it earlier. I can 100% relate to your story.

Now if only there was a way to painlessly move from one iPhone to the next, we would be exchanging them far more often. Just last week I moved from my faithful 5s to X, used "iMazing 2" app which I got on offer for around $14. (In case someone is wondering why did I purchase an app just for moving stuff. iMazing 2, offers a painless way to do iPhone wifi enabled backups as well.) The move was flawless. Almost all settings got cloned, even the wallpaper.

Disclaimer: Not related to iMazing 2 in any way. Just a user.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by mikestew » Tue, May 01, 2018, 3:19 PM UTC

oldcynic wrote: post #101

rxhernandez wrote: post #57

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I have definitely known too many people to experience issues with missed calls on iPhones to ever consider buying one. I have had android phones since the HTC Dream and I have never had something as simple as that go wrong - although the 911 bug seems far worse; I've just never met anyone with that problem.

My Nexus 4 developed an interesting one after the update to 5 and 5.0.1. Incoming calls would crash it half the time, or 5 seconds of silence on calls that didn't crash. The dialler was almost unusable. Was widely reported but never properly resolved, so that was the cue for replacement.

My Samsung Note 3 got so laggy that I couldn't get the unresponsive phone app to actually pick up the call before it flipped to voice mail. Reboots would fix it temporarily, but it would come back. You have failed at your primary purpose, phone. Android experiment over, back to iOS.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by craftyguy » Tue, May 01, 2018, 3:20 PM UTC

ibdf wrote: post #333

It's clear from reading the threads in here that user experience on either side is not consistent. That's fine, get what works for you. If you have an android and it's not working for you, then switch to an iphone, and vice versa. Try a flip phone if you need simplicity. What I don't get it... is this fanboyism, this loyalty to a company that knows you as close as a number on a spreadsheet and a dollar amount on thei…

I can't wait for the Librem5 phone. Both mainstream options, whether it's Apple or Android, are terrible.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by jklinger410 » Tue, May 01, 2018, 3:21 PM UTC

nvarsj wrote: post #315

dalore wrote: post #205

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And with Apple you use Apple services which no doubt do the same invasion of privacy. And if you don't want to see ads it's pretty easy, buy apps without ads rather than using ad supported apps. > Similarly, a lot of the inconveniences you point out (e.g. LastPass), are also a way of protecting you from rogue apps (e.g. Facebook) from tracking everything you do on your phone. That level of integration means that any…

https://thehackernews.com/2018/03/android-botnet-malware.htm... This malware was installed on vanilla phones including those from Samsung, out of the factory. Regarding LastPass, it used the accessibility option, which as far as I know basically let's it watch your screen - aka it's a full on screen logger. On top of this most Android devices are way out of date (Samsung in particular is terrible about updating their…

>Good luck to anyone that owns an Android phone. It's like the Windows 95 of mobile devices.

Haha, wow, this is such an inflammatory comment.

I don't really mind saving $200+ for a phone because I know how to both shop for, and use my phone.

Half of the complaints iOS users have about Android simply come from them being too lazy to avoid the pitfalls that come from having the choice between hundreds of different phones and apps.

But yeah, I mean, have fun with your Eddie Bauer of technology. Glad it "just works" for you.