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Post by mathgeek »

uhhhhhhh wrote: post #277
YouKnowBetter wrote: post #136

My whole family (parents, sister & her kids, wife & our kids) have switched to iPhones (and macos devices) years ago. Result: 1. no "technical" issues anymore. As the go to IT guy in the family this alone is worth the supposed premium price one pays for the Apple logo. 2. Everything is updated, at all times. 3. "Facebook logs my sms" are a none issues 4. All devices die of old age (even the devices that have since lo…

I've got to say I have the exact opposite experience. It got to the point I now don't do apple/iphone support for family. The number of itunes issues, osx keystore issues, technical issues with phones was taking a lot of time, and user issues with the iphone never ended. My parents, sisters, and any aunts/uncles nearby that I support are all on windows 10 with android phones. My results. 1. Time spend supporting fami…

> There is a subset of the family that uses facetime, they don't talk to the rest of us as often anymore.

To me, this is one of the greatest shortcomings of video chat. We went from a universal phone system to a mostly universal SMS system (most private networks still supported SMS) to a segregated video chat system, and it hurts relationships if you're not careful.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by aeontech »

ttflee wrote: post #149
aeontech wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, I move my family between iPhones every year and haven’t noticed any data loss. One exception to date is WeChat, for some godforsaken reason they only back up the most recent dozen conversations or so, so if you want your entire history, you have to jump through hoops to initialize a device-to-device transfer over WiFi, which can take an entire night in worst case. Would be curious to hear what kind of data loss…

Be cautious using WeChat. If the Chinese authority could retrieve something from the device, the U.S. authority must be able, too. https://www.androidheadlines.com/2018/04/confirmed-deleted-w...

Oh yeah, I am under no illusion about WeChat’s privacy. It’s insanely integrated into everyday life in China though - it almost feels as if people don’t care whether they use iOS or Android there, because they use WeChat apps for everything (banking, utilities, taxi, games, payments for everything, etc) rather than native apps.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by Shikadi »

olegious wrote: post #330

I was a devout Android user, ever since the first Android phone came out, but after back to back horrible experiences (the first OnePlus and the Nexus 6), I ditched Android for the iPhone and haven't looked back. Much better hardware quality and the ecosystem works extremely well.

This probably is some sort of Fallacy that has a name... People should be looking for the best product at the time for them, not the best brand forever. There are anecdotes of people switching from one platform to the other and never looking back all over the place. Technology evolves so quickly that when you switch from one platform to another, it's almost always a step up provided you purchase in the same tier or better of devices. Imagine someone driving a 10 year old car from one brand, who decides to try a new brand of car. It has 10 years of new technology in it and blows the old car out of the water. Does that mean that they should switch brands forever and never look back? Phones and computers move much faster than cars. That being said, your opinion is completely valid and hopefully I don't come off as if I'm telling you your opinion is wrong or anything like that

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by vesak »

baldfat wrote: post #163
YouKnowBetter wrote: post #136

My whole family (parents, sister & her kids, wife & our kids) have switched to iPhones (and macos devices) years ago. Result: 1. no "technical" issues anymore. As the go to IT guy in the family this alone is worth the supposed premium price one pays for the Apple logo. 2. Everything is updated, at all times. 3. "Facebook logs my sms" are a none issues 4. All devices die of old age (even the devices that have since lo…

My anecdotal evidence has been the opposite. My daughter has always been an Apple user and she has had so many more issues with her phone. Either she never upgraded her phone due to storage limitations because she refused to uninstall certain apps. He screen twice has twice peeled off. The battery expanded and now it glitches every hour but she is stuck because there is NO HEAD PHONE JACK. So she keeps saying do I bu…

The iPhone SE has a headphone jack. The latest leaks seem to indicate that the upcoming SE 2 will also. But perhaps the screen size is too small for kids.

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Post by washadjeffmad »

untog wrote: post #244
matwood wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Siri is definitely Apples biggest weakness, but the headphone jack? The phone comes with a little adapter. If you're a person who has tons of nice headphones laying around, but a couple more adapters and call it a day. Is it a bit of inconvenience at first? Sure, but don't act like there is no way to plug in headphones or that it's the end of the world. And Duo? I'm a tech person and I can't keep all of the Google co…

You're right about the headphone jack for day-to-day use, but there are edge cases everywhere. I was at a birthday celebration a few weeks ago where someone wanted to play a song from their phone. But they couldn't, because they didn't have the adapter and neither did the DJ. I mean, these things happen. But it used to be the case that we had one, universal plug that would work with everything, and I miss that alread…

Usually a DJ will request the file to import into the playlist so they don't get disruptions to playback from texts, phone calls, etc. I'd say it sounds like they found a polite way of telling that person "no".

I also wonder if anyone considered sending the media over another protocol. There's BT, NFC, IR, MMS, OTA, Wifi, sharing sites, etc. And if the DJ had 1/4", XLR, USB, HDMI, optical, SPDIF, or RCA, then they'd still have needed adapters, splitters, or converters.

None of my audio equipment has 1/8" inputs, so I'm about as sympathetic to the universal argument as I was when cars stopped having CD-audio players and roughly as optimistic in our ability to get over this as a people.

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Post by selectodude »

boudin wrote: post #283
ubernostrum wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So don't use anything, ever, then. If you want to use a smartphone, you basically get to decide who you trust more with the device that holds a lot of your digital life: Apple or Google. I know how Apple makes its money, and I know how Google makes its money. This makes the decision very, very easy. Your argument basically is "yeah, I know one of these companies is already actively exploiting my data for profit and t…

I use neither of those and host my own services, but I know I'm a control freak on that. My point is that an object that you don't control can't be trusted for privacy, that's all. Both iphones and stock android phone fits in this category, you don't control any of those. Edit : If Apple change it's business model and decide to use the data gathered, what do you do? It's exactly the problem of privacy, having control…

Apple probably made like $500 selling me an iPhone X. If they sell my data, I won't buy another one. I guess I'm stuck trusting capitalism in that I think Apple would rather keep making $500 every couple years than $50 once.

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Post by ppeetteerr »

elahd wrote: post #264
YouKnowBetter wrote: post #136

My whole family (parents, sister & her kids, wife & our kids) have switched to iPhones (and macos devices) years ago. Result: 1. no "technical" issues anymore. As the go to IT guy in the family this alone is worth the supposed premium price one pays for the Apple logo. 2. Everything is updated, at all times. 3. "Facebook logs my sms" are a none issues 4. All devices die of old age (even the devices that have since lo…

I've had the same experience with my immediate family (siblings, parents, in-laws). A few years ago, I made pretty clear that if their next phone wasn't an iPhone, they were on their own with regards to support. I set up iCloud backup (with a premium storage tier) and installed ESET NOD32 on every computer that I "support." There hasn't been a single "support call" in 3 years (aside from hardware and forgotten passwo…

I can confirm that we had the same issue with my family. I switched them all to Apple hardware since they would complain of lost Wifi on their Laptops and confusing functionality on Android. Now that everyone has MacBook Airs and iPhone 6s, I have not heard complaints from anyone.

These days, it's about using Google Drive (who really owns a shared file?)

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Post by lotsofpulp »

ibdf wrote: post #333

It's clear from reading the threads in here that user experience on either side is not consistent. That's fine, get what works for you. If you have an android and it's not working for you, then switch to an iphone, and vice versa. Try a flip phone if you need simplicity. What I don't get it... is this fanboyism, this loyalty to a company that knows you as close as a number on a spreadsheet and a dollar amount on thei…

Sample size of this thread is too small. Based on the fact that almost all the profits in the phone market go to Apple, obviously they are providing something people want that others can't. In other words, Apple consistently provides a user experience that more people prefer compared to Androids.

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Post by vesak »

Double_a_92 wrote: post #282
bdamm wrote: post #16

After 7 years Android user across three phones, I decided to try iPhone. Now 2 years in, on my 2nd, and never going back. Android tends to slowly slide into glitch land and demands you throw away your phone far more aggressively than iPhones do. The 911-crash on Android was the last straw. That's when you call 911, and the phone crashes instead of, you know, calling for help. iPhone might not be latest and greatest.…

> Now 2 years in, on my 2nd, and never going back. Android tends to slowly slide into glitch land and demands you throw away your phone far more aggressively than iPhones do. I doubt that an Android phone would become unusable in the first 2 years.

Each of my Androids have, with the exception of the absolutely brilliant LG Nexus 5.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by ppeetteerr »

patja wrote: post #313

The iPhone walled garden is what gets my goat, particularly when it comes to the impact it's had on my children. Combined with an observation that there is a distinct subset of people who buy iPhones who seem uninterested in how technology works or engaging deeply in solving technology interop problems when things go wrong. I get that's part of the feedback loop -- you buy an iPhone because "ack, technology! I just w…

The walled garden is one of Apple's strengths. I joined the ecosystem because there is a walled garden, not despite of it.

There is some anecdotal evidence that Apple is heavyhaded with their approval process but, for the most part, it's a success.

The parent-kid thing is a societal problem, not an Apple problem. Can hardly blame a company because the kids of their customers don't want to be inclusive (exclusivity is more than just what device you use).

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