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I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by saagarjha »

efdee wrote: post #97
hellofunk wrote: post #84

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> When you install FB or any other app you get a nice list of things the App is allowed to do, if you do not want the app to do those things you should not install the app. This is actually a fairly recent change to Android. It did not used to provide you with these choices. It demonstrates that user privacy is a bit of an afterthought with Android. For Apple, these kinds of user choices have been there since the sta…

I've been using Android since 2.x and I sell to remember it has always been like this. The recent change iirc is being able to decline a certain privilege and still use the app.

Yeah, they'd show you a list of a dozen things that the app was going to use and you basically just tapped the "accept" button because you wanted the app to have access to your photos except now it has access to your contacts, location history, notification center, and firstborn child. Android Marshmallow brought improvements in this area, though.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by saagarjha »

syshum wrote: post #98
hellofunk wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When you install FB or any other app you get a nice list of things the App is allowed to do, if you do not want the app to do those things you should not install the app. This is actually a fairly recent change to Android. It did not used to provide you with these choices. It demonstrates that user privacy is a bit of an afterthought with Android. For Apple, these kinds of user choices have been there since the sta…

>>This is actually a fairly recent change to Android if by "recent" you mean "almost since the beginning" then sure. The app permissions system has gotten better over time, more fine grained, ability to deny permissions while still install the app, and other features, but the basic list of "if you install this app it gets X access" has been there for a long long time, v2 or v3 if I remember correctly

The ability of accepting/rejecting specific permissions is from Android 6.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by herbst »

saagarjha wrote: post #105
timrichard wrote: post #88

I develop on Macs, and really like using iOS devices. The iPad is my tablet of choice.... But I've always stuck with Android phones, since the G1 (and a lot of jokes at the time). I think it's because the app interoperability was designed in from the start, something that only appeared gradually in iOS. I find a lot of value in workflow companion apps. So when I get a text message, it gets archived to Gmail with a la…

> So when I get a text message, it gets archived to Gmail with a label so it's searchable. And every incoming/outgoing/missed call puts an entry with the details and timestamp in my calendar, so I can look back for reference. With iOS, these all get synced across your devices through Continuity. They're not really searchable because Apple hasn't figured out a way to do search right, but they're there.

Obviously the data is there, yet one allows you to do whatever you want in a comfortable way while the other doesn't.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by saagarjha »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #69

I'm wondering for the people that say Android is buggy, how many used stock Android

I've used stock Android, and yes, I'd call it buggier than iOS. It's much less fluid and apps often just stop responding completely. It's not terrible, but in my experience it's just been worse than iOS overall.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by herbst »

mirkules wrote: post #81
chrischen wrote: post #6

I had the same experience when first switching to Android after a lifetime on iPhone. But after a year of really getting to use Android features it eventually became apparent Android has its own problems, and I ended up switching back to iOS. It'll seem great at first since it does things differently and improves on many aspects of where iOS fails at while it's fresh in your mind, but you'll need to spend much more t…

This is the review I'd really like to see. I'm not interested in "first impressions" or "1 month in". I'm interested what happens after a year, two or even three years. I have an iPhone 6S+, and it works almost flawlessly - animation is still good, very few app glitches, and even the original battery is in decent shape. I'd like to hear how Androids from that era fare compared to iPhones from that era - because I pla…

I am having my oppo a57 for over 2 years now. Longer than I had any other Android device before, and there are literally zero issues except it never really had a good camera to begin with.

What I am trying to say is that it's not easy to compare android with iOS because of all the devices. There aren't many Samsung Sx devices still alive from that time, yet my (never heard of) oppo still does a great job

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by saagarjha »

fasj82 wrote: post #76
rcheu wrote: post #25

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I switched to iOS this past year after using Android since the G1, and working as an Android developer for the past 5 or so years. Pretty happy with the iPhone X, less happy with iOS 11, I think previous iterations were better. Things I like: * typing feels much nicer, no lag in character input * phone runs much cooler, does not make hand sweaty to hold * far fewer random freezes or lag * password management much bet…

>* some Google apps for iOS don’t seem as good as their android counterparts. YouTube app keeps getting buggy updates, Inbox still doesn’t support full iPhone X screen. Google is simply sabotaging iOS with all of that. There's no way Google can't afford to pay developers to fix that. They just want to annoy people. My solution was to quit as many Google services as I could.

Oddly enough, many Android apps are actually inferior to their counterparts on iOS, or lacking in features. Hangouts, for example.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by herbst »

lwansbrough wrote: post #31
chrischen wrote: post #20

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Maybe they've improved their OS and features, but as far as I know their revenue model is still advertising based.

Anyone know if you can still get a high quality Android experience without being a slave to Google? Obviously things like Google Now are only particularly useful if you submit to Google, but other than that, what can be expected? Can I root it and disable all the bullshit?

Sure you can. There are plenty of solutions for exactly that for several years now

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by tzahola »

robin_reala wrote: post #104
dogweather wrote: post #65

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> the always growing "Other" space ... Lol, I had an "Other" folder for the growing set of iOS apps that I didn't use but couldn't delete.

You can delete nearly all default iOS apps now as of iOS 10.

“delete”

Which actually means “hide the icon”.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by no1youknowz »

I know a lot of this is anecdotal...

My Mom who is 77, has had a few Androids. Always calling her Sons to help fix her phone. She bought cheap phones for a couple of hundred dollars, but always limited the Ram, but had plenty of storage.

WhatsApp, Skype, Facebook would constantly fill it up and many times you'd have to clear out all the apps, clear the storage on the phone, etc, etc. Then I would have to explain to her that whilst she had a 64GB Sim, none of the Apps could be installed on there, etc, etc. She's not technical enough to understand what Google does on each update. She just wants a working phone.

Now before I get replies. My time is mission critical, I can't spend 1 hour debugging a phone and talking to someone who just wants to use a device as non-technical as possible as anything complicated with be forgotten.

I made her get an iPhone 6. Installed all her favoriate apps and waited. Never heard from her again.

She's 77, calls all over the world, has all her friends on messager and whatsApp, she uses grammerly and surfs the web and even navigates via GPS using google maps.

The Phone. Just works.

I. Being the technical one in the family. Gets left alone LOL.

In the family, 3 of Us have an iPhone. 2, Dad and 1 brother have an Android. All they have is problems, but they are too stubborn to get an iPhone. Oh well...

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