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Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by yomly » Tue, May 01, 2018, 9:55 AM UTC

cm2187 wrote: post #40

wvenable wrote: post #35

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I think sometimes it's a grass-is-greener situation. I had an iPhone bug where the camera/gallery would just crash on startup or basically anytime I had to do anything camera related. I eventually fixed it (after months of trying) by connecting to a PC with a 3rd party app, navigating the file system, and deleting a bunch of thumbnail cache files. I had plenty of problems answering phone calls on my iPhone -- it woul…

I have beefs with my iPhone and iPad but not those. 1. Nagging for Apple paid services 2. Gestures changing every month and becoming increasingly complicated with small variations doing different things, inconsistent experience between iPad and iPhone 3. Audio jack 4. Anything that involves editing is a catastrophe. Selecting an element of a table on a web page or trying to copy the text of a link (not the url) is ne…

2. is a real issue. I had to google how to turn off an iPhone X, this is after there being an iOS product of every gen being in the family since the iPhone 3

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by mrsuprawsm » Tue, May 01, 2018, 9:56 AM UTC

One of the author's frustrations is actually already present in iOS:

> There’s a super-easy clear all link which is fantastic and hits at my #1 pet peeve w/ iOS’s design: the iOS notifications give me more work to do, not less

If you force touch on the topmost (x) in the iOS notification dropdown, you get an option to clear all notifications.

However, I only recently discovered this myself, after using each iOS since beta 1, so it's not exactly a discoverable feature.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by digi_owl » Tue, May 01, 2018, 10:03 AM UTC

antihero wrote: post #89

ssijak wrote: post #30

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My experience exactly. I always said bad things about iPhone. Hay it is closed, it has fewer options, worse hardware than top Android phones, etc.. It was the time during which I fiddled with the phone much, installed Ubuntu on Android phone, etc.. But then my last Nexus started to glitch like any other Android top phone after 1 year of use. I was so irritated by it that I said well I will try iPhone now. It was abou…

Also there's small stuff like: Photo map. I've traced back treasured photos that would have been lost in a sea of 44,000 photos by finding them on the map. Google Photos doesn't seem to have this. Notes also works really nicely for loads of stuff.

https://github.com/k3b/APhotoManager/wiki

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by efdee » Tue, May 01, 2018, 10:04 AM UTC

simonh wrote: post #72

dmitriid wrote: post #56

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I find this area the single most useless display of information on an iPhone. Yes, you can see which app takes how much space. Then what? There is no way to control or clean up that space. You can hope that an app has a setting somewhere that let's you delete old data, and that's it. The biggest offender? Apple's own Photos app especially with iCloud and Photo Stream: there's exactly zero ways to make it give up spac…

What's stopping you deleting photos and videos, or even whole albums in the app? Or syncing photos off and deleting on sync? Anyway, I'd genuinely be interested in how Android or Android apps solve his problem in better ways. For a lot of the other issues, it seems like this is a problem with the apps though, not the OS. If Facebook or a podcast app is hogging space, it's up to the app to provide options to manage it…

Android has an overview by app where you can a) delete the app entirely, b) delete the app's data entirely or c) delete the app's cache. C solves most issues described here.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by 8fingerlouie » Tue, May 01, 2018, 10:06 AM UTC

atl4s wrote: post #60

teekert wrote: post #55

I'm thinking of going from android to iPhone for privacy reasons. But, whenever I hold an iPhone that list of notification puts me off, in android they are grouped, meaning 3 new exchange mails is 1 notification, I can pull on the notification to expand the 3 and then even more for every email. Short replies can be done inline in the notification even. I use that constantly. You can also swipe away a notification gro…

I use an app called Blink ( http://www.blink.sh/ ) on iOS to manage servers on the move, has mosh support as well for areas with spotty cell service.

I have yet to try Blink. I find it somewhat expensive. Panic makes a cheaper (SSH only) app : https://panic.com/prompt/

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by gambiting » Tue, May 01, 2018, 10:08 AM UTC

modeless wrote: post #66

jb1991 wrote: post #42

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> Even more annoying about the iPhone is the always growing "Other" space on the phone. I was constantly short on disk space with no way of knowing what the cause was or how to clean it up. Hm? There is a very simple Storage page in the Settings that shows you exactly how much storage each app is taking up (including things the app is storing) and it is ordered by size so you can immediately see what's using up your…

Yes, that page is very simple, and very wrong. On my mom's iPad and iPhone, the app numbers on the storage page simply don't add up. Many gigabytes of space are unaccounted for, yet unusable. As far as I can tell the only way to recover the space is a factory reset, and it's only a temporary fix.

Tbf, my last phone(Xperia Z5) did the same thing - it would show me that apps were taking ~22GB, but when you displayed them and actually added up the numbers it was about ~12GB. I actually went and uninstalled pretty much everything I could, and "apps" were still showing as using nearly 10GB. I only got it back after a full firmware reset.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by efdee » Tue, May 01, 2018, 10:14 AM UTC

hellofunk wrote: post #84

syshum wrote: post #45

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>>especially considering the recent FB Android app revelations about lots and lots of things the phone was doing that nobody realised, No lots of people realized them, and lots of people have been talking about them for years just no one really payed attention until now. When you install FB or any other app you get a nice list of things the App is allowed to do, if you do not want the app to do those things you shoul…

> When you install FB or any other app you get a nice list of things the App is allowed to do, if you do not want the app to do those things you should not install the app. This is actually a fairly recent change to Android. It did not used to provide you with these choices. It demonstrates that user privacy is a bit of an afterthought with Android. For Apple, these kinds of user choices have been there since the sta…

I've been using Android since 2.x and I sell to remember it has always been like this. The recent change iirc is being able to decline a certain privilege and still use the app.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by syshum » Tue, May 01, 2018, 10:22 AM UTC

hellofunk wrote: post #84

syshum wrote: post #45

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>>especially considering the recent FB Android app revelations about lots and lots of things the phone was doing that nobody realised, No lots of people realized them, and lots of people have been talking about them for years just no one really payed attention until now. When you install FB or any other app you get a nice list of things the App is allowed to do, if you do not want the app to do those things you shoul…

> When you install FB or any other app you get a nice list of things the App is allowed to do, if you do not want the app to do those things you should not install the app. This is actually a fairly recent change to Android. It did not used to provide you with these choices. It demonstrates that user privacy is a bit of an afterthought with Android. For Apple, these kinds of user choices have been there since the sta…

>>This is actually a fairly recent change to Android

if by "recent" you mean "almost since the beginning" then sure.

The app permissions system has gotten better over time, more fine grained, ability to deny permissions while still install the app, and other features, but the basic list of "if you install this app it gets X access" has been there for a long long time, v2 or v3 if I remember correctly

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by girvo » Tue, May 01, 2018, 10:22 AM UTC

rxhernandez wrote: post #57

cm2187 wrote: post #40

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I have beefs with my iPhone and iPad but not those. 1. Nagging for Apple paid services 2. Gestures changing every month and becoming increasingly complicated with small variations doing different things, inconsistent experience between iPad and iPhone 3. Audio jack 4. Anything that involves editing is a catastrophe. Selecting an element of a table on a web page or trying to copy the text of a link (not the url) is ne…

I have definitely known too many people to experience issues with missed calls on iPhones to ever consider buying one. I have had android phones since the HTC Dream and I have never had something as simple as that go wrong - although the 911 bug seems far worse; I've just never met anyone with that problem.

I know plenty of people including myself that experienced it with Android phones. Weirdly, one of the most stable Androids I owned in terms of phone use was my Xperia X10 — one of the first android phones out! I miss that phone. And my Nokia N9.

Re: I switched from iPhone to the Pixel 2: One-week report

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Post by Grazester » Tue, May 01, 2018, 10:23 AM UTC

syshum wrote: post #32

ssijak wrote: post #30

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My experience exactly. I always said bad things about iPhone. Hay it is closed, it has fewer options, worse hardware than top Android phones, etc.. It was the time during which I fiddled with the phone much, installed Ubuntu on Android phone, etc.. But then my last Nexus started to glitch like any other Android top phone after 1 year of use. I was so irritated by it that I said well I will try iPhone now. It was abou…

>>Also, I can disable every notification/spam per app You can do this on Android as well >> Nexus started to glitch like any other Android top phone after 1 year of use ... 6 month ago and I could not be more happy. I have phone that just works, never glitched hmmm, Anyone else see a issue with these 2 statements?

I really don't know about that. I had the og Moto-X and it served me will for years without issue. I now have a Nexus 6 and didn't wipe the phone for two years after use. I only did so because I wanted the better system encryption that came with a newer Android and that was only available after a full wipe.