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Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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leereeves wrote: post #56
psyc wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure I understand the question. As it is now, the vast majority of my transgressions in real life disappear into a memory hole. What makes the internet so special in that regard? You want there to be a permanent digital record of people's mistakes, why? So that those best at hiding their defects can get ahead? Why is that desirable?

For roughly the same reason schools administer tests and keep permanent records of grades. An author's track record for honesty and accuracy is (was?) the foundation of credibility.

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Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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Post by gambiting »

onetimemanytime wrote: post #24

Maybe I'm out of touch with HN, but kudos to Medium. I delete the article for a reason, why should someone read it years later (regardless of the website or format.) It's my article

So if you publish a book, and then pull it out of stores, people who have the copies, and all libraries, should burn their copies, right?

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Post by matthewmacleod »

jakeogh wrote: post #59
matthewmacleod wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

big coorps do have massive teams and monetary funds to deal with this legislation, startups and one-man shops do not. That applies to literally every piece of legislation. Yet we don't decide that small restaurants should be exempt from food hygiene laws, or that small construction teams should be exempt from health and safety laws.

Conflating information with feeding someone poison food is so par.

Your objection is not helpful.

Being careless with personal data has harmful consequences.

Being careless with food safety has harmful consequences.

This is why these things are related.

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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Post by TomMarius »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #40
alerighi wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can't, and I would like to know what Europe wants to do about it. Block wayback machine in Europe ? Well, I can still access it with a VPN if I want. Also I want to know what they will do about git and GitHub, or even blockchain project (how you delete something from a blockchain ?) The problem is that GDPR is a stupid legislation written by incompetent people that doesn't understand the subject and imposed with…

For the love of god, please stop spreading these misinformed views. 1. Nobody in Europe will be blocking anything. 2. The Wayback machine will continue to operate. 3. GDPR is generally pretty well-written legislation, based on extensive experience by privacy regulators across Europe. There are some questions about exactly how the rules will evolve in practice. The thing to bear in mind is that privacy regulators are…

I don't disagree (nor agree), but trusting Europe to not block anything is wrong. There are EU countries that are right now blocking something. Porn in UK, foreign gambling sites in Czech Republic and of course Telegram in Russia.

Edit: I of course know that Russia is not in the EU, lol. Parent said "Europe" and I added Telegram as a fun remark after two serious examples (and there are more). Calm down with the downvotes.

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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Post by makomk »

jsty wrote: post #4

Archive.is doesn't seem to be affected by the redirect strategy. article: http://archive.is/gPcBW

Archive.is goes to a lot of work in order to make archiving pages on widely-used sites actually work, from what I can tell.

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Post by lostlogin »

StavrosK wrote: post #55
lostlogin wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And there you go, it turns out that ‘mouses’ is an accepted pleural for a computer mouse. Less horrible than ‘Magic Trackpad 2 — Silvers’ I suppose.

Yep, unlike "pleural", which is not yet an accepted spelling of "plural" :p

That’s just excellent. It stays. Guess which field I work in.

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Post by teamhappy »

thogenhaven wrote: post #10

I wonder how wayback machine will work after GDPR? I can't imagine they can just show content that the authors deleted from primary sources?

Why would GDPR apply to the internet archive? It's a US based nonprofit. As far as I can tell they don't do anything that even remotely hints at them providing services to EU residents (like offering their site in European languages, having the €-symbol somewhere on their donations page or any of the other more subtle things mentioned in GDPR).

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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Post by bartread »

leereeves wrote: post #30
onetimemanytime wrote: post #24

Maybe I'm out of touch with HN, but kudos to Medium. I delete the article for a reason, why should someone read it years later (regardless of the website or format.) It's my article

What would credibility mean in a world where lies, mistakes, and fits of emotion could be erased completely?

The combination of right to be forgotten and GDPR practically mandate that this be the case and, as others have pointed out, in the pre-internet era there would often be no record, unless it had hit the print media. Most criminal offences are expunged (at least in the UK) from your criminal record after a number of years, so why should the internet be allowed to keep a permanent record after your debt to society has been paid?

Re: Medium tries to prevent people reading deleted articles on the Wayback Machine?

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Post by larkeith »

scandox wrote: post #27
thisisit wrote: post #20

If the page loads completely then yes it redirects to medium.com. But you can read the article by interrupting the redirect and clicking the stop button.

This is true. It took me five goes, but I am over 40 and my mouse finger is not what it was.

For future reference, you can rate limit bandwidth with dev tools in Chrome (and probably Firefox), which makes it a lot easier to dodge redirects in situations like this.
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